Here are qoutes from all three groups:
Official Tamaskan Group TDR:
think in the arctic breeds in particular there will prob be wolf content hidden away. That is why many huskies and mals resemble wolves and how the Tamaskan can be bred to look so close to the wolf without adding in any pure wolf.
I am sure there will be wolf in the Tamaskan somewhere in its past, it wouldn't be a dog otherwise and perhaps there is more wolf in the GSD and Tamaskan than in a Chihuahua but that does not make them wolf hybrids.
Notice the creator of the breed says that their is no pure wolf in the Tamaskan as well as that there may be wolf in the breed in the past, which implies that she may be hiding wolfdog "hybrids" she used to create the breed.
And here's my conversation with them concerning the dog Taz pictured here:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... permPage=1
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Here in this topic:
http://www.tamaskan-forum.com/viewtopic ... 0&start=20
What breeds are these guys?
(I put a whole bunch of links,two of which linked to Taz.)
Link 6 & 7 - Taz - He should be mainly German Shepherd Dog. He is Tumanras grandfather and where the black colour comes from, he is BEFORE the Tamaskan breed though
Are you guys sure Taz didn't have some wolf in him? Since it was before the Tamaskan breed, I know it wouldn't be you guys fault if he did,but he looks like a midcontent wolfdog, not a german shepard mix. I've never seen a German Shepard that looked that much like a wolf before.
i don't think lynn owned taz (going from memory, haven't worked out how to open new tabs on mobile yet), but i don't see no wolf. looks wolf-y but not wolf-dog-ish. looks basic GSD from back in the good ole' REAL GSD days before they got 'broken' and the breed standard went freakishly wrong where they learned to walk sat down :( ... can't tell too much just by pictures tho, look at how many 'wolfdog' pictures turned out to be tamaskan pictures ;)
Yet this is what the old style German Shepard looked like in the other threads,which is still not as wolfy as Taz:
http://selah1.homestead.com/largeoldfas ... ppies.html
He looks very GSD to me. I think the first pic makes him look more wolfish because of the angle and how his head is positioned.
Another Member(founder of the breed):
No I didnt own Taz but do know him, or at least did because he is now dead (old age) He definately dosnt have wolf in him. He was a cross GSD.
Photos can be very deceiving depending on the angles. I have many pictures
of him and in some you would swear he was a wolf particularly the ones taken
in a pond
She says in one sentence that he definitely wasn't part wolf yet in others that he looked so much like a wolf that she'd mistake him for one.
Claims on the Aatu Tamaskan:
"Aatu Tamaskan" have been a thorn in the side of the true Tamaskan for a few months now and discussion regarding them has been heated. This new thread is designed to limit conversation to only the facts about the breeds and to correct any wrong information that they display on their websites, which are many. For instance, the no-wolf-fable website states that the original Tamaskan contains high wolf content. This is absolutely false.
Below (in bullet form) is a list of the true facts, which can be backed up with documentation. This topic has been locked to prevent further controversy and we kindly ask that it not be discussed elsewhere on the forum. We wish to keep this forum friendly and non-political to the best of our abilities.
If anyone has a new fact that they believe should be shared with other forum members then please email that information to an administrator who can then place it on this thread if it does indeed belong here.
• The no-wolf-fable website(s) that continue to appear on the internet are full of false information. The Tamaskan Dog has NO amount of recent wolf content whatsoever and all information on those sites is fabricated and/or guess work designed to encourage people away from the true Tamaskan.
• The Aatu breeders are individuals who were once part of the Tamaskan Dog Register. They have taken their pure Tamaskan and chosen to mix in other breeds to create a new breed.
• It has been proven that they are searching among the Czech Wolfdog and Saarloos breeders for their new breeding stock and have purchased a Utonagan. The reason they have done this, instead of staying with the true Tamaskan, is purely political and nothing to do with the health or appearance of the true Tamaskan as they state on their websites. This, again, is to encourage people away from the original Tamaskan to their new crossbreed instead.
• Most Aatu breeders were given multiple warnings from the TDR for their behavior and conduct, and one Scottish breeder was under investigation for falsifying paperwork before she left and started up the Aatu. The two founders of the Tamaskan Dog breed, along with other important TDR breeders, had denied all of them puppies and they were generally unwelcome in Tamaskan circles.
• The Aatu breeders are using pictures of pure original Tamaskans (belonging to other TDR-registered breeders) in order to promote their own breed. After respectfully asking for the removal of these pictures, our request was denied... unless the owner of the photographs agreed to pay a substantial fee to the Aatu’s web designer for the removal!
• Of the three Aatu breeders who started the "Tamaskan Breeders Association" ALL have no experience when dealing with a new breed of dog, two had NEVER bred a litter of Tamaskan before, and one had never bred a litter of any description!
• Aatu breeders have deliberately sought out conflict with pure Tamaskan breeders, writing hurtful things on their websites without proof and trolling many dog forums to spread lies and rumors about true Tamaskan breeders. One even went so far as to insinuate that a respected TDR breeder culls puppies at birth if they do not fit the breed standard! This was shocking and outrageous lie was written on one of the Aatu breeders own personal website!
• The same aforementioned breeder in Scotland was found guilty of: falsifying pedigrees so that puppies of dogs without hip scores could be registered, hiding genetic health issues within her lines from the TDR, and sometimes not handing out breeding contracts or registration documents to new puppy owners. She was under investigation for these issues (as well as the filthy condition of her kennel area) when she left to create her own breed, away from the strict regulations of the TDR. The Aatu Group were only too happy to welcome her to their club.
• The first USA litter of Aatu Tamaskans produced a piebald puppy (white with patches) leading to speculation that the breeder had lied about the puppy's parentage, as piebalds have NEVER been seen in the true Tamaskan breed before. This is suspicious but has not been proven by DNA analysis.
Although we do not wish to stoop to the level of the Aatu breeders, and start pointing fingers at their breeding practices, we believe there are important facts about "Aatu" Tamaskans of which the general public should be aware:
• Blustag Onager at Conchur (aka Mikko) is a monorchid dog (a genetic condition resulting in one undescended testicle). So far he has been used at stud twice but has failed to produce a litter. He is a foundation dog for the Aatu breed and is currently advertised at stud.
• Alba Sumarlidl is the daughter of a female who died from epilepsy, which of course is genetic (the TDR has removed all progeny of the known carriers). She is a foundation dog for the Aatu breed and is currently producing litters.
• Alba Dakari at Ta-Kari is the grandson of a female who died from epilepsy (the TDR has removed all progeny of the known carriers.) He is a foundation dog for the Aatu and is currently producing litters.
• The above dog (Dakari) was bred from underage and has produced a litter of puppies (including the piebald mentioned in the earlier section) with Takeia (mentioned below), it is possible that some or all of these puppies are carriers of epilepsy, poor hips, and/or Addison's disease.
• J&J Moonlight Takeia at Ta-Kari is from the same disastrous litter that produced two dogs with failing hip scores, two dogs with Addison's disease, a puppy with cataracts, and a dog who recently died from renal failure. The parents of these dogs have been removed from the TDR breeding program, as have all their offspring. She is a foundation dog for the Aatu and is currently producing litters.
• The TDR has a health database where ALL health issues are made known to the public. We do not, and have not, hidden any health issues within our breed. The Aatu breed has no such system.
In the Tamaskan Dog Register's opinion, the Aatu is not a breed of dog but, rather, a collection of crossbreeds and any puppies produced should not be called Tamaskan... or have Tamaskan anywhere in their name!
In the TDR breeding and puppy contract it states that puppies should not be known by any other name than Tamaskan Dog so the Aatu people are in breach of a legal contract by continuing to use alternative names for their purebred Tamaskan Dogs. If the Aatu breeders had left and chosen another name without the word Tamaskan in it, and not spread rumors in an attempt to discredit the original Tamaskan breed, then we would have had much less of an issue with them. As it is, people will see the name Tamaskan and become confused about the differences when the Aatu starts to suffer with health issues, which is inevitable due to their foundation dog breeding stock. The original Tamaskan Dog does not wish to become tarnished with the same brush.
The TDR wish people to understand that the Aatu has absolutely nothing to do with the true and pure TDR-registered Tamaskan Dogs. Their look will not be the same as ours, their health will not be the same, and I am certain our ethics will far surpass theirs in every sense.
Thank you for taking the time to read this information and if you need more information (or would like to make a comment on what is written here) then feel free to send a private message to either myself or another administrator.
According to this site(supposedly made by Right Puppy Kennels, a puppy mill, according to the TDR):
Tamaskans are a rare breed especially with only a few registered breeders in the United States of America. The cost of importing a puppy is even more costly due to shipping prices. In either event, purchasing a Tamaskan is quite a financial commitment. Therefore, before you put a buy a Tamaskan puppy, please make sure you are working with a reputable registered breeder. Registered breeders are listed on the Tamaskan Club of America (TCA) website and the Tamaskan Breeders Association (TBA) website. The TCA is the official registry of the American Tamaskan and the Tamaskan Breeders Association (TBA) is the official registry of the Aatu Tamaskan. Beware of backyard breeders.
Please be aware that there is a hobby/backyard breeder who is selling mixed breed puppies claiming they are Tamaskans/American Tamaskans (and/or Tamaskan Dogs). When formally asked to "cease and desist" selling these puppies as supposedly registered Tamaskans, the Tamaskan Club of America (TCA) was told that they would set up his own registry. The Tamaskan Club of America is a bona fide international organization and the only organization that recognizes purebred American Tamaskans based on their pedigree and DNA testing. The Tamaskan Club of America also maintains breeding records on litters produced, tracks breed history and maintains a health database to track the health and development of the breed. Please visit the website http://www.TamaskanDog.com for more information. To further add to the deception, they attempted to copy our domain name and are using http://www.Tamaskan-Dog.com (note the added hyphen). An official dog registry is more than just a place to advertise puppies that are for sale.
This hobby breeder has also advertised that his Tamaskan/Tamaskan Dog puppies are "Championship" quality. In order for a puppy to be legitimately classified as "championship quality", it must be evaluated and judged by outside experts to determine that it conforms to the breed standard. As a new breed, the American Tamaskan is not yet recognized by the AKC, UKC or CKC. Therefore, showing a dog to Championship is not possible. While Club recognition is a goal of the TCA, at this point the breed is too young and the number of American Tamaskans in the United States is too small.
After exhausting all other avenues, the TCA filed formal complaints to the Elizabeth City NC Better Business Bureau, the North Carolina Attorney General's Office and the Federal Trade Commission. We have asked for this backyard breeder to stop these deliberately deceptive advertising practices and have encouraged them to simply advertise his puppies with honesty and integrity. In response, they have opted to "create" their own breed, which they are calling the "Tamaskan Dog". This is particularly sad, especially for people interested in a purebred American Tamaskan, as these Tamaskan Dogs are simply Tamaskan x Utonagan mixes; don't get deceived!
This becomes even more evident as you read through his breed history, which was copied (without permission) from the TCA and apparently Wikipedia. (Please note: Generally breeders do not go to Wikipedia to develop their breed history, but rather develop their standard in the course of developing their new breed.) They provide no explanation, nor do they document, how their breeding practices have contributed to the new breed or why a new breed was supposedly developed. They are simply using the Tamaskan name to confuse the public in order to sell mix breed dogs as a rare purebred. This is very sad. We wish that they would stop.
To assist your search for a registered purebred American Tamaskan puppy, we offer the information below. Please do not hesitate to contact the Tamaskan Club of America at http://www.TamaskanDog.com or any of the registered breeders listed on either of those sites should you need advice or assistance.
At present, there are 3 main organizations representing the Tamaskan breed.
1. The Tamaskan Dog Register (TDR - http://www.Tamaskan-Dog.com)
Lynn Sharkey/Hardey and her daughter Jennie Peacock formed the Tamaskan Dog Register (TDR). Their Tamaskans are officially called "Tamaskan Dogs". The following passage was taken directly from their website: "The Tamaskan Dog Register (TDR) consists of an international committee and is the official Governing Body for all Tamaskan Dogs worldwide." According to the TDR, any dog not registered with their organization is not a "True" Tamaskan. Even when a dog was purchased with complete TDR registration, they have the option of de-registering any Tamaskan at any time. Since they are the governing body, the two ladies decide which dogs are Tamaskan Dogs and which are not.
This governing body is still primarily Lynn (Blustag) and her daughter Jennie (Blufawn). The TDR is predominantly run by Lynn Sharkey/Hardey (Chairman), and her daughter Jennie (Secretary and Breed Historian). While there are a few TDR committee members, they are selected/deselected and consulted/ignored at the whim of this mother-daughter combo. The TDR is an independent body with no Board of Directors and a hand picked Committee. In other words, there is no oversight of their activities or practices.
Since this mother-daughter team decides who is a member and who is banned it became necessary for other governing bodies to be created. This link provides a very clear example of their absolute power in action: Tamaskan Dog Showing Club
2. The Tamaskan Club of America (TCA - http://www.Tamaskan.com)
Kevin Settineri owner of RightPuppy Inc. formed the Tamaskan Club of America in early 2007. Their Tamaskans are officially called "American Tamaskans". The following passage was taken directly from their website: We have the distinguished honor of being the official registration body for the American Tamaskan Worldwide. Mr. Settineri's three foundation dogs were fully registered TDR Tamaskan Dogs with registration certificates and official pedigrees. RightPuppy used 10 pure TDR Tamaskan Dogs as the principals of his foundation stock.
According to the information presented to TamaskanTruth, approximately 91% of all Tamaskans in the United States as of 2011 fall under the Tamaskan Club of America's "American Tamaskan".
According the RightPuppy, Inc. "After complying with all rules and regulations set forth by the National Tamaskan Club of America and the Tamaskan Dog register since 2006, the governing body of the TDR (Lynn and her daughter Jennie) decided to revoke RightPuppy's membership and de-register his 3 adult foundation dogs and his 7 young female Tamaskan puppies." To this day, the TDR claims that all TCA Tamaskans are not "TRUE" Tamaskans; pure nonsense.
According to information taken directly from the TDR website, Kevin broke his breeder's contract; no specificity given. Mr. Settineri was told that his dogs are no longer Tamaskans, that he could not register either of two litters that were the from fully registered TDR Tamaskans, and that he would never be sold another Tamaskans. Period. No appeals process was offered. No specific explanation regarding the breach of contract.
After contacting the TCA, this is what we learned: RightPuppy had two simultaneous litters of Tamaskan puppies in late 2006. A litter of ten puppies and a litter of eight. Five other Tamaskan breeders who were located in the United States eagerly lined up to purchase pure TDR registered Tamaskans puppies from RightPuppy located in North Carolina. Having a domestically bred puppies would have saved several hundred dollars in international puppy shipping fees. According to the NTCA breeder's contract, RightPuppy reserved the final right of refusal to sell to the other US Tamaskan breeders or not. RightPuppy thought that it was best for the breed for the other breeders to get unrelated Tamaskan bloodlines from oversea into their breeding programs so that no eventual inbreeding would take place. RightPuppy decided to keep 7 of the Tamaskan females from the two litters to add to his own breeding program.
30 minutes after RightPuppy exercised his right of refusal to sell to his direct competition, he was formally banned from the TDR and the NTCA and his dogs were formally de-registered. Why put a clause in a contract if it cannot be exercised without being banned? Apparently, exercising a contract clause is defined as breaking a breeders contract by the TDR. This is a common tactic used by the mother daughter team when they ran the British and International Utonagan Society (BIUS). Do what they say or else!
3. The Tamaskan Breeders Association (TBA - http://www.TamaskanBreeders.com)
The TBA was initially created in February 2009 by Regina Skarzinskas, then President of the NTCA and member of the TDR from the US. It was created to provide support to breeders which was sorely lacking from the TDR breeders who exported dogs to many who had no experience in the area of breeding. When the TDR began to redefine the role of the NTCA, she resigned from the NTCA and focused her attention on breeder education. In August 2009, having discovered the range and extent of unethical practices of the primary founders of the UK Tamaskan Dog breed, she left the TDR. Two other TDR registered breeders who left the group based on the ethics and behavior of the TDR founders, joined together and founded the TBA as the registry for the Aatu Tamaskan. The Aatu is described as the American cousin of the UK Tamaskan Dog.
While the specific personal reasons for their resignations varied, the general consensus was that the personal ethics and moral character of the two remaining founders of the group (Blustag and Blufawn) were questionable at best, and that the TDR was not providing, and in all likelihood could not provide, what was needed for the UK Tamaskan Dog to survive and thrive in the US without significant improvements in a number of areas.
In August of 2009, two founding members of the Tamaskan Dog, as well two long-standing TDR registered UK Tamaskan Dog breeders, resigned from the UK group. [This was in addition to another founding member having resigned in June 2008.] While the specific personal reasons for their resignations varied, the general consensus was that the personal ethics and moral character of the two remaining founders of the group (Blustag and Blufawn) were questionable at best, and that the TDR was not providing, and in all likelihood could not provide, what was needed for the UK Tamaskan Dog to survive and thrive in the US without significant improvements in a number of areas.
Three of these breeders, Alba in Scotland, Conchur in Oregon and Ta-Kari in Colorado, banded together under the Tamaskan Breeders Association to introduce the Aatu Tamaskan. The following passage was taken directly from their website: "We are a group of dedicated breeders whose primary goal is the health and welfare of the Aatu Tamaskan breed."
Prior to these resignations, however, extensive research into the UK TDR Tamaskan Dog was undertaken and revealed that Blustag and Blufawn intentionally removed registered names and breeder kennels from the pedigrees, thereby presenting incomplete and inaccurate pedigree documents. The TBA believed that restoring the integrity of these pedigrees was paramount, and proceeded to research the true history of the origins of the UK TDR Tamaskan Dog. This research further showed that Blustag and Blufawn knowingly and intentionally disregarded health information presented to them which indicated significant health issues and genetic conditions within some of the UK TDR Tamaskan Dog lines.
It would seem that the founding governing body of the Tamaskan has forced the creation of 2 different North American based governing bodies (the TCA and the TBA) in addition to the NTCA. A combination of strong armed tactics, instantaneous de-registrations of registered Tamaskans, poor record keeping and questionable pedigree history lead to the current situation. The breed will survive under the different governing bodies. Each organization is producing the same basic Tamaskans with only minor differences. One positive commonality is that the genetic foundation for all of these Tamaskans is primarily the Utonagon.
It would be nice if all of these entities could co-exist in harmony. However, constant the onslaught of slander/defamation/libel from the TDR members based in Europe directed towards TCA and TBA members and breeders makes a harmonious co-existance extremely unlikely and/or impossible.
And here are quotes from the Aatu breeders association:
And from one Aatu Breeder:
Why have we decided to keep “Tamaskan” in our breed name rather than just calling it an Aatu? [After all, the TDR simply renamed their existing Utonagan, wolfdog and Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs as Tamaskan; they expect us to do the same.]
Well, the decision to use Aatu Tamaskan has certainly made us the recipients of continued harassment, condemnation and malignment. But, we stand by the decision of the Aatu Tamaskan name. Personally, I feel if we were to use our Tamaskan foundation stock under a completely different name, it would be as if we were running from something or trying to hide from something. We have nothing to run from, hide or be ashamed of. Some of us have tried to work with the TDR for two years or more. The fact is that we will use our Tamaskans dogs as foundation stock for the Aatu Tamaskan, and we openly acknowledge that fact, as well as the breeders from where they came.
Most obvious to note (but easily ignored) is the fact that EVERY breed (even the mighty UK Tamaskan) had its beginnings from other breeds:
Czech Wolfdog: German Shepherd x Carpathian Wolf
Tamaskan Dog: Utonagan, Wolfdog and Czechoslovakian Wolfdog
Utonagan/Northern Inuit: Malamute, Husky and GSD
Sarloos: European wolf x GSD
Further, there are many Shepherd breeds, but they are not just called Australian, Alsatian, Swiss, Belgian, Bohemian, Anatolian, German, Shiloh, etc., etc. They are identified by their complete breed name (Belgian Shepherd, German Shepherd, Bohemian Shepherd, etc.). In many cases, it is an acknowledgment of the breeds from whence they came. [http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard/13_Breed_Type/Breed_Types.html]
Similarly, the Aatu Tamaskan is a separate and distinct breed that, within its name, recognizes where the breed began.
FACT: Did you know Belgian Shepherds come in four coat/color varieties (the Groenendael; the Tervuren; the Malinois; and the Laekenois? Yet, the American Kennel Club considers these varieties to be four separate breeds.
FACT: Did you know that the Australian Shepherd was initially called by many names, including Spanish Shepherd, New Mexican Shepherd, and California Shepherd?
We will keep Aatu Tamaskan name and enhance the breed through a selective process to make it more wolflike, with a focus on temperament and health. We are grateful that steps were taken to create the look of the Tamaskan that we fell in love with. Most importantly, our dogs will be presented factually and honestly in EVERY way. [We now have accurate pedigree and health histories to do so.]
Pedigree Misrepresentation by Tamaskan "Founders
As was already stated in the "Resignation" page, it was shortly after our resignation from the TDR that we were approached by those familiar with the wolfdogs obtained to add to the Tamaskan lines. Please visit http://the-no-wolf-tamaskan-fable.blogspot.com/ for complete information regarding this issue. [8/2/10 - The above site has been updated this date in view of the revelation of the use of Saarloos Wolfdog with an F2 wolfdog in July 2009.] Since the release of the Fable site, many have come to us to thank us for presenting information that they can rely on. While we realize that unless you have been involved with some time and are familiar with the lines, it can be confusing. In short, there are several high content wolfdogs being bred and sold as the "no wolf" Tamaskan Dog.
I'd like to share some comments received. You see, while the TDR maintains its tirade and campaign against those of us that resigned, and others who have simply chosen not to become affiliated with them, the public deserves and has the right to have reliable and documented information upon which to mull over and make an informed decision. And now, with DNA results, any doubt should be put to rest.
Received June 25, 2010 - I've just read your research about the Tamaskan dog and it has somehow made me change my mind. I was always a fan of wolves and I always wanted a dog resembling one. When I found out about the Tamaskan I was excited and seriously started thinking about getting one but then after I've read your article, which actually makes a lot of sense, I'm beginning to change my mind. The thing is that I am an inexperienced dog owner but I am really keen on trying to do my best if I ever aquire a dog. I've already started doing plenty of research about it, about socialization, training, the pack system and everything. The thing is though, I want to have a dog that resembles a wolf but not to have any of the dangerous aspects of wolf/hybrid owning. I've come accross the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog and from what I've read they are a recognised dog breed. But I guess that means they are more dog than wolf, while still having at least 20-30% wolf in them. Not that it concerns me, but I do have some questions and would really appreciate some serious advice if you can afford it. - M.Y. [Part of the response to this inquiry was just as is stated on the Fable site "Not ALL Tamaskan lines have wolfdog or Czech Wolfdog", and this party was advised of the wolfdog/CsV's being bred in the Tamaskan pedigree.]
Received June 24, 2010 - In reading the No Wolf Tamaskan Fable site, realizing the scope of all this was incredible and harrowing. With the photo album provided by the owner of Valko I browsed and found pictures of Henki, some of which were exactly the same as those on Blustag's site listed as Jodie, even today. With only the knowledge of Henki and Jodie being the same dog, everything else falls into place, which would mean that Valko must be Whitefang and Boogie and Blondie must be Ivan and Dixy, respectively. I'm glad that with the information that you provided I was able to find things out on my own, even before I read about them on the site links. I had always wondered why Jodie looked so wolfy whereas some of the other Tamaskans didn't in comparison. Now I know....Thank you. - C.W., California
Received June 11, 2010 - Hi there, I just wanted to drop you a quick email to say thank you for the hard work that obviously went into that website. [I] have owned a Tamaskan for 2.5yrs now. I was an *** Officer at the time and wanted a dog that would fit into living in the Officers' Mess alongside a hundred other people and dogs. I have always liked northern/arctic breeds but didn't want the high work rate that came with them. Having contacted Lynn I was assured that Tamaskans like Ute's and NI's were fantastically well tempered and of course very handsome. Much easier to live with than say a purebred husky.......which hasn't been the whole story. DOG had, much like your site says about CsV's a 'difficult' adolescence, which resulted in a lot of damage to furniture. We were unable to leave him alone until he reached 18 months. He did come to work with me every day but there are always days he needed to be left and this proved very difficult. So much for a consistent breed temperament and fore-warned is fore-armed etc...
From the very moment we went to pick up DOG, I was adamant that the woman was not to be trusted. Her house was an absolute tip. Not just doggy but well past normal. Too many dogs and all caged and howling in a tiny house. She herself was extremely aloof and couldn't get any facts about her dogs right. I had to tell her a few things she had put on the website. The website and (joke) of a pedigree showed DOG as being a Dingo - Susi puppy but she introduced us to two completely different dogs when we asked to see the parents. It also had conspicuous blanks where great grandparents should have been. She made us sign a laughable contract; which of course was the first time anything like this had been discussed. That is to say, we had just driven 6 hrs to be informed that we could only take the puppy if we signed a contract. This had not been discussed prior to our trip
Not being a complete idiot, I could tell it wasn't worth the paper it was written on. The same could be said of the pedigree. Lynn was of no use whatsoever and clearly continued to mix up lineage of our dog. A little investigation on my part then led me to believe that Dingo was in fact part CsV as was Susi (from the same dog in Finland). This was posted on a website by a Finnish man but the post was later removed from fear of legal action on Lynn's part. DOG looks exactly (I know this isn't an exact science but what else could I go on at this point) like I would believe a CsV/Husky to look like. The markings on his coat and the red are pure CsV. I love my dog to bits, was a little weary of his nature (which has proven to be very friendly and happy) and do not call him a Tamaskan. I tell the myriad of admirers that he is a Finnish Sled Dog instead. This is, I believe closer to the truth. Luckily, with a lot of hard work, exercise and training he has turned into a fantaastic dog.
We have had a few emails asking us to participate in Tamaskan events but I would rather pull my teeth out.
I do feel conned, I don't think Lynn has any idea about dog breeding whatsoever. I could not care less that she has been involved with dogs for forty years. She is clearly not the sort of person with the ability to create a new breed. It has been my belief for a long time that she has just been taking WolfDogs and CsV's and crossing them to make a Tamaskan. That's why I was so pleased to find your website and I'm COMPLETELY convinced with your conclusions. Her marketing is conning people. I have had a friend, tell me he is considering a Tamaskan recently, without knowing that I have one. She clearly stands to make a lot of money. Whilst, other far more honourable breeders are losing out. Finally, the chances of a Tamaskan hurting someone and thus MY DOG becoming less than reputable worries me. Sorry I have rambled on in no particular order but I'm annoyed with Lynn and very happy with your excellent work. Please keep it up.
Best Regards, M...., UK
Received January 20, 2010 -http://theutonagansociety.com/health According to TUS (Not sure if they are still active or not), Blustag has had several health issues pop up in there lines. Are they still using any of the same lines that once caused these health concerns? They are listed under Addison's Disease, Cryptorchidism, Epilepsy, and Von Willibrand's Disease. Not to mention, other lines such as Redkite and Sulin (known lines behind the Tamaskan) also seem to be listed under almost each of the health concerns. But truly, Redkite and Blustag seem to be listed the most. Thanks [Many of Blustag's Foundation dogs are from Redkite breeding]
Received December 12, 2009 - Hi, I just found your website through google and must say that it's really a lot of info and for me (as a Tam newbie ^^) still a little confusing with all those names etc haha You mentioned something about hip dysplasia and that two breeders got puppies from that sire so I wanted to ask you if they are still breeding with them? (knowing that they could have bad hips) For a newbie (like me) its pretty confusing and you dont really know who to believe but you've got so much info/evidence on your website thats why I thought it would be best to come to you and ask you that question instead of someone else. - K...
Received November 24, 2009 - I'm not sure who you are, but you have alleviated A LOT of stress in my life, while bringing a mountain of it in a different form.We have a female dog from Right Puppy, born from an early 2008 litter of Moose (before he took up the puppy mill breeding). We were under the impression that there was no wolf in her lineage. Yet, after picking her up as a puppy and watching her grow and seeing how difficult and aggressive she can be my husband was certain that there was a lot of wolf in her. We can't trust her around kids, we can't let her off lead and we have worked with this dog 24/7 from the time she was 6 weeks old! We got kicked out of two dog parks for her fighting/aggressive nature, especially against submissive dogs. She is intensely intelligent and learns instantly. But unfortunetly, in her case, the intelligence works against us, in that she KNOWS her options and she rarely chooses to anything that doesn't suit her. We cannot find a 'motivator' for her doing the right thing-- she is not motivated by food or by being told good/bad dog. Play will often times motivate her to learn right from wrong, but that doesn't come into her consideration when its a serious situation. She IS good with cats, ferrets, kids (like they claim) but what they don't say is that its ONLY ones that she was raised with and she now considers 'pack'. She also tests for dominance quite often. She 'stalks' other dogs, cats, even kids. We are trying to train this behavior out of her, but its difficult. Basically, we got what we thought was a wolf looking dog but WITHOUT wolf and it turns out not to be the case at all. I'm worried because I know how difficult my dog can be and Right Puppy is now breeding these dogs from the same lines at about a rate of 20 litters a year, so I see that there can be NO way that other households are able to deal with a dog with this kind of nature. We have the capability right now to be able to take the hours with her every single day to try to turn her into a great dog, but I sure wish I had known before bringing this dog into my home. I love her with all my heart and I have to do what is right by her, but it worries me for her future (as wolfdogs are not allowed in my state) and also for the future of other puppies from Moose that will find themselves in a home not quite as able to accomodate the wolf-type behavior that is characteristic of this line. Thank you for making some sense of it all for me. While it is not good news, at least my thoughts are verified and we are armed with more information for her future. - A.M. [Moose is out of Tumanra, an F3 wolfdog at worse case.]
Received November 10.2009 = Thank you so much! I dont write in English, but I have to do it now. My husband can help me later. We have a dog named *** (Summers brother) here in Finland. His father is Whitefa g. I have even asked before if Valko and Whitefang are the same dogs. Lynn and Alexa (Valkos owner) both said its not! [Alexa's photo album posts shows otherwise] We have serious problems with ****. Its most wonderful dog to familiar people but it try to bite foreign. It also is a very shy dog. Situations in which **** has bitten the human being its very different. It seems that it wants to expel all the other people and dogs away and to be with an own herd. Luck has been that it only bites and does not tear up. We dont any more trust it at all. However we love it enormously and **** would never do nothing to own people. Now I must leave for work. I am so surprised that somebody dares to write about these matters publicly. One must say that no matter came as a surprise to me. We have two really dear beautiful dogs at home in spite of all. - A.P.
12/30/10 - Sadly, despite being caught with their pants down, the continued misrepresentations about UK Tamaskan pedigrees continue by the TDR and its affiliates, they continue to malign, disparage and spread lies about others who have chosen to be honest and separate from them, and wolfdog pups are still being sold as "no wolf content Tamaskans".
As you have seen, after our resignations from the TDR, we were approached by several people who had prior affiliation with Blustag's Lynn Sharkey/Hardey. As a result, we published the site http://www.the-no-wolf-tamaskan-fable.com. In that site, we compiled prior websites of Blustag, correspondence and public posts confirming the intent of Blustag to use wolfdogs in the UK Tamaskan Dog pedigree. Yet, they have continually promoted the breed with the motto "wolfdog without the wolf" ... a blatant misrepresentation and falsification of pedigrees.
Since the head TDR committee members have been so adamant in their stand that "there is no wolf" in the Tamaskan lines, we have asked them to provide DNA samples of the wolfdogs in question to put this matter to rest. They have flatly refused. So, we had to pursue other avenues.
Just recently, we have finally gotten the results for DNA parentage testing of the F1 wolfdog Valko (who remains in Finland) and one of his puppies out of the "Little" litter, sold as a Tamaskan and whose pedigree shows the sire to be "Whitefang". The dam of this litter was Paloose @ Blustag (registered name Redkite Mitka @ Blustag, but changed on TDR pedigrees).
It has been confirmed by science that this male puppy is son of Valko, known as Whitefang on TDR pedigrees. In speaking with our DNA testing lab here in the US, we have been advised "Having just one side of the pedigree is not as accurate as having the sire dam and mating qualify. Having just one parent qualify gets you to about 97-98% confidence level when testing with our 14 marker panel. In other words 1/1000 animals tested independantly will qualify. But you must also take into consideration that the sire chosen was tested because it was a possible sire which also improves the chances."
Since there are so many sources (as set forth in the Fable site), including repeated confirmation by Blustag herself having owned Valko, a wolfdog out of Boogie, an arctic tundra wolf, we are confident in Valko being the wolfdog known as Whitefang on TDR pedigrees.
Interestingly, as soon as the results came back, the information was posted on the Facebook group for the No Wolf Tamaskan, as well as several forums, including the TDR's "private" forum that is only accessible to 'acceptable members'. They "moved" the post "out of the public eye" (as stated by Sylvaen - who interestingly had a half-brother/monorchid x half-sister mating, keeping it secret - on their forum).
So, let's recap: We released the information regarding high content wolfdog being used in the Tamaskan "no wolf" pedigrees. This information was compiled from firsthand accounts by those involved with Blustag and Blufawn in the procurement of the wolfdogs and during their time in Finland, as well as Blustag's own correspondence and archived websites.. The TDR immediately began a smear campaign riddled with lies, libel and slander against those who chose to resign from their organization and have felt a responsibility to those researching the breed in order to make an informed decision based on documented fact. The TDR was presented with an opportunity to prove their "words" true by submitting to scientific testing, and they flatly refused. We got the DNA results that we requested from the TDR, and when the information was posted, the TDR immediately deleted it from their forum.
Now really, do we need to say anymore.
AND THE HARASSMENT CONTINUES... These people really need a life or a job!!!
CRIMINAL HARASSMENT BY THE TAMASKAN DOG REGISTER COMMITTEE MEMBERS
On March 30, 2010, the TDR Chairperson, Lynn Sharkey, posted on the Tamaskan forum that their followers should bombard an Aatu owner with emails and comments on her website. She called this owner an "easily misled" individual, while not knowing we have been dealing with her for over 18 months ... even while we were part of the TDR. This is the continued harassment and childish behavior that head committee members, who claim to be honest and above board, have continued to perpetrate on those who have chosen not to have any dealings with them. In fact, when our little inkspot (see Litters) was born, at least half a dozen people contacted the adopter of that pup, searching her down on FaceBook, in an attempt to dissuade her from adopting the puppy, making false accusations regarding his pedigree. SICK!!! And scary, that they have nothing better to do with their time and lives than to harass others who don't agree with them. (Perhaps they should focus on getting their health issues taken care of!)
Their behavior is obsessive, and their fixation on what any of us do borders criminal harassment. (as defined by the law). They continue to cyber-stalk and harass us so that they can continue the lies they have presented to the public. While we have taken every stop possible to disassociate ourselves from them, they continue to seek us out and monitor our every movement. Really, shouldn't they be concerned about their own health issues and what they are doing?
If anyone wishes to pursue a relationship with the TDR and its committee members, you should be aware of the type of activities that they condone and perpetuate with those that don't agree with them and who have chosen a different course away from them.
PLEASE VISIT http://tdrliesandhumor.blogspot.com/ FOR MORE.
5/10/10 Despite repeated postings and requests to leave us alone, the TDR and its minions continue to harass those who have chosen to remain separate from them. In addition to Ms. Sharkey's continued directives to her league of blind followers to have everyone make written attempts to have websites closed down, they continue to write and harass Aatu affiliated members, owners and future breeders. I don't get it really ... is it mot clear that we want NOTHING to do with them? It always seems to come back to this ... the truth is greater (and more threatening) than fiction. I have full confidence in the honest-hearted to not be blinded by words but to see the facts for what they are. I have always believed not everyone is stupid... though some wish to remain so. (It has to be stupidity... they can't claim ignorance anymore.)
By the way, all posts and email excerpts have been verified as accurate and true originals. So, the TDR's allegations that certain emails have been doctored really comes down to self-projection of their own underhanded and dishonest activities. As the person harassed today said ... "very sad people".
5/15/10 - Well, it has been confirmed that members of the TDR have been using my kennel name (takari) on various forums and other internet sites to post bogus information to make it look like we are seeking them out and trying to discredit them. SICK!!! We are tracking down the IPs and culprits.
I did just join a dog forum (previously a Tamaskan forum dictated by the TDR) and from my first hello, there was an all-out attack. HOW SAD!!! Someone said that I was a threat (geez, I just said hello). Someone else said we were out to cause trouble (all from HELLO?). The truth of the matter is that the truth is always controversial... and only those with something to hide are threatened. That's why none of us at the TBA feel threatened by anyone at the TDR. We know the truth (and so do they), and that's all that matters
2/7/11 It still absolutely AMAZES me the time and effort that the TDR and its blinded and dishonest followers continue to expend to discredit those that have split from them. REALLY: Are 4 dogs and two breeders that come from mostly Blustag breeding THAT MUCH of a threat to such a supposedly strong breed and breeders???? GET A LIFE PEOPLE!!! The amount of time they spend continuing to monitor our websites and post allegedly negative information all over the internet is so idiotically and incredibly infantile. GET A GRIP!!! But, then again, when you are caught with your pants down as much as they have been and caught in SO MANY lies, you really do have to act like a child, kicking and screaming and name calling, because you have NO THREAD of integrity or honesty in your being. They still have NOTHING but "their word" ... A very sad lot of people indeed. The facts are the facts and they are indisputable.