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Nutrition - I think I want a Fennec Fox

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Re: Nutrition - I think I want a Fennec Fox

Postby TamanduaGirl » Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:00 am

My diet page is updated, finally, to reflect the fact most fennecs eat less than the info I originally had. Just makes it a bit more lenient of retinol but doesn't really change the diet plan. http://tiny-foxes.com/Diet.html
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Nutrition - Milk for a Fennec Fox

Postby VRB » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:22 am

Good afternoon!

I've tried emailing the company (and retail company's) multiple times, but I didn't get a reply and calling to America is really expensive for me :cry: So before I do that, I thought: why not ask on this forum?

I would like to know how much Vitamine A (Retinol) and Taurine is in this fox milk, since it's important for fennec foxes:
https://store.foxvalleynutrition.com/day-one-3532

Maybe somebody has already figured it out? If not, I will give FoxValley a call!

Thank you very much in advance!
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Re: Nutrition - I think I want a Fennec Fox

Postby TamanduaGirl » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:12 pm

Nutritional milk needs can differ from adult needs so I'm not sure knowing the retinol value will help, babies almost surely need more than adults. I haven't found an analysis of fennec or even red fox milk to know what is needed. I heard they are responsive to calls if you do want to call them. They may have some research I haven't found that they base their formula on or it might just be based on what has worked.

Someone needs to milk their momma fox and have it analyzed then we'd know what the milk replacer needs in it.
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Re: Milk - I think I want a Fennec Fox

Postby VRB » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:26 am

TamanduaGirl wrote:Nutritional milk needs can differ from adult needs so I'm not sure knowing the retinol value will help, babies almost surely need more than adults. I haven't found an analysis of fennec or even red fox milk to know what is needed. I heard they are responsive to calls if you do want to call them. They may have some research I haven't found that they base their formula on or it might just be based on what has worked.

Someone needs to milk their momma fox and have it analyzed then we'd know what the milk replacer needs in it.


Thank you for your response! I will give them a call and just ask them if they think the milk can be used for fennecs as well icon-smile
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Re: Nutrition - I think I want a Fennec Fox

Postby TamanduaGirl » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:18 pm

oops I thought I accidentally put this in the wrong thread so removed it but it is in the right place.

This was just mentioned to me and looks like it would be great food for fennecs, if you don't mind the price and want easy to feed https://reptilinks.com/collections/case ... ect-rabbit

Or with veggies included assuming it's only 10% or less veggies for even easier: https://reptilinks.com/collections/case ... nd-veggies

They also have frog & rabbit links which sounds cool. But still at those prices I'll keep buying from Hare today and raising my own roaches and cutting up my own veggies. These would be really simple though for people looking to simplify the feeding.
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Re: Nutrition - I think I want a Fennec Fox

Postby TamanduaGirl » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:43 pm

Occasionally someone asks how much it costs to feed an animal. I got that a lot with the anteaters but that was hard as I don't buy it all at once and didn't really track that very well.

Well I just ordered 6 months worth of rabbit and about a years worth of chicks. Works out to 2.77 a day just for them it sounds like more when done monthly $77+ a month. Plus add in some for pheonix worms and calcium supplement(that container will last forever with the little he gets) Mostly free roaches since I raise them and some veggies so maybe round it up to a grand total of $3-ish a day or $84+ a month. That's kind of a lot for a 3.5 pound critter. Still $3 a day to "rent" a fennec from the cosmos and keep him health and happy is kinda a bargain.
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Re: Nutrition - I think I want a Fennec Fox

Postby TamanduaGirl » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:31 pm

How to feed a fennec fox, the video
https://youtu.be/a1Cy6Ox7zoc
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Nutrition - Retinol

Postby VRB » Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:34 am

Have you seen this website?
http://dietgrail.com/retinol/

It contains information from all kinds of (human) food. For example, you can click "Vitamin A (IU) [International Units]" (Retinol) and search for "Turkey" and see that "Turkey, whole, meat only, raw" contains 30 IU per 100 gram. Or "Chicken, meat only, raw" contains 52 IU/100 gram. Or "Egg, whole, raw, fresh" 540 IU/100 gram.
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Re: Nutrition - I think I want a Fennec Fox

Postby TamanduaGirl » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:24 pm

No but the USDA site has all that as well(and probably where they got their info). https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/ You click start search then you can search by nutrient or food. I just search by food and get the complete run down on all nutrients.

You want the value per kg but basically you can just ad a 0 to the 100 gram value or in the USDA page you can change the 1 for the 100 gram value to 10 so it's 1,000g and it'll change all the values for you.

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