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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby Tervicz » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:56 am

Aren't these endangered?
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby jillbill1212 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:55 pm

I believe they are vulnerable not quite endangered, However its a good possibility.
People hunt them for they're pretty fur,
Florida however dosent have anything against owning a red panda.
as long as you have a class II permit your good to go.
The US fish and wildlife dosent have anything against it either,
when you ship within the United States, but if it comes from a foreign country
CITES is the one you'd have to deal with. They list the red panda as endangered
so its appendix I which means i cant get it for personal purposes, but they have a
rule where if it was born in captivity and you can get a letter proving that from
whichever country your shipping from then they will make it a appendix II which means
you can ship it for personal purposes. But if its plucked from the wild then they wouldn't allow it.
So its very doable, it just takes time and paperwork. icon_biggin.gif

Im not sure if youve seen my other thread in breeders and dealers,
I explain everything alot more there icon-smile
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby Lionsniper » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:24 am

If you were able to obtain one, I'd be real interested in purchase price, probably thru the roof--years ago giraffe were going for $30K, I don't keep up but I remember that one, prices fluctuate, supply and demand. At one time you could purchase a lion cub for as little as $200, yet a kinkajou would set you back a grand or 2 and still will from what I've seen for sale, babies that is. :rhin: Since you live in Florida, bamboo is very easy to grow, however, there are so many varieties and I am sure the panda is particular, so that could be a deterrent as well. I've never heard of anyone owning a koala bear either. It is all about the $$$, you have enough you can purchase anything you want because politics go right along with the $$$. Sigh. :eleph:
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby snakeman » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:40 pm

the zoo on the hill in Roanoke, Va. has red pandas. they might be able to better tell you the laws on them. I heard several zoos are on waiting lists and breeders usually only let them go to members of the AZA .
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby jillbill1212 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:30 pm

I always wondered how it would be to have a giraffe,
A beautiful sight every morning, But i imagine the
care involved on such a huge animal wouldn't be easy icon-smile
I had planned to call some local zoos and ask what diet do they
feed their Red Pandas, I read somewhere that they give them a cup of hamburger meat and other ingredients because red pandas have adapted to eating meat in captivity :shock:
although in the wild they eat small prey. But i have some bamboo
contacts waiting for my call and i have the enclosure ready to be built.
Zoos however do not encourage the ownership of exotic animals,
So if i was to ask a zoo about the laws of owning a red panda , im sure
it wouldn't turn out too good :mrgreen: However i can ask what they feed
them as if im just another "curious" person. I can become USDA certified and AZA
accredited for being a stationary zoo, small one of course but its worth a try.
In fact i have the packet they sent me to apply. So if thats what it takes for me
to be able to get one then so be it. icon_biggin.gif
As far as prices ive heard alot of numbers thrown out there,
Mostly its just to bribe them to actually go through the trouble of giving
you one, Seeing as there is no specific price set for a red panda :icon-wink:
Some numbers ive heard is anywhere from 50k to 500k , of course 500k being the most extreme. There was a person in Florida who had quite a few of them, and when i told him id be willing to pay 100k he laughed :icon-frown: he said that wouldn't even start to cover the cost plus he didn't want to sell them. Everyone has their own price
i suppose. But unless that panda is made out of gold im not paying 500k
for one unless its a pregnant female. :mrgreen:
I have a few more contacts so ill see how it develops,
But its been on a standstill lately icon_confused.gif

P.S as far as the laws are i already doubled checked :mrgreen: Its absolutely
legal in the US as long as i have the proper permits and as far and international laws go with shipping thats CITES :mrgreen: which is where the captive born paper comes in so ive got all my legal tracks covered :nosey-gif:
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby Lionsniper » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:45 pm

Hey JB, Without scrolling back thru posts, did you say what state you reside in? LOL, I have heard responses like the one you got from FL, people like that always crack me up along with every purebred animal they have is a grand champion, don't you know!!! hahaha! The Philadelphia Zoo used to have a red panda years ago, they are not one of my favs so the last time I was at the zoo, I didn't bother to check but you might contact them as well. Giraffes aren't high maintenance, we had several at the zoo in NJ, funny to see them in the snow and they were prolific breeders. They are sweet animals, funny tongue, rough on one side, slimy on the other, I would treat them with cherry Twizzlers. I'm not really into hoofstock, not when you have tigers and leopards to play with so I didn't get involved in their daily care. Well, I'm interested in your progress so let me know if you would. :piggy:
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby Juska » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:27 pm

You're willing to spend 100k just to watch an animal in an enclosure in your own backyard instead of going to a zoo?
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby Lionsniper » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:45 pm

Hey, why buy a yacht when you can just go on a Carnival cruise, lol, just kidding around but if I had that kind of dough, yes, I would have my own private zoo just like the person I worked for in NJ. All kinds of rare and exotic creatures and everything was hands-on so why not? You can't do that at a zoo! :eleph:
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby Lionsniper » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:46 pm

PS, your rat is adorable, they make such great pets, I have a small menagerie at present, but no longer a pet rat.
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby Juska » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:46 pm

I have two rats, they're definitely my babies :lol:
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby jillbill1212 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:40 pm

Juska,
As Cynthia said , any exotic pet owner I'm sure would agree
that owning the animal and seeing it in a zoo is two very very
different things. But to answer your question, Yes i would.
Its not like its a toy that ill watch all day through a glass,
And it wont spend its whole life in an enclosure lol :nogif:
Its the raising it, the up and downs and neutering it becoming
its mother or farther or best friend etc and creating the bond.
Thats something you surely couldn't do at a zoo :mrgreen:
And Cynthia Ive never touched a giraffe much less felt its
tongue, im jealous :mrgreen:
And ofcourse ill keep you all updated,
But by the end of this year i will have a red panda
..I hope icon_biggin.gif
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby Lionsniper » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:25 am

Jillbill, I meant to tell you I really like your sig line, will use it for my Facebook status line! Cynthia. :bear:
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby jillbill1212 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:52 pm

Thank you Cynthia,
Its one of my favorite quotes :mrgreen:
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby jillbill1212 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:14 pm

My mistake,

I mean class III permit,
Class II is for potentially dangerous animals such as
jackals servals lynx etc
class III is all other wildlife not on class I or class II
excluding domestic animals such a dog or cat or hamster etc

Also dont get me wrong,
in Florida its illegal to own sell harm or posses endangered animals.
They just dont consider the red panda endangered.
(a) Pillar coral (Dendrogyra cylindrus)
(b) Blackmouth shiner (Notropis melanostomus)
(c) Okaloosa darter (Etheostoma okaloosae)
(d) Shortnose sturgeon (Acipenser brevirostrum)
(e) American crocodile (Crocodylus acutus)
(f) Green sea turtle (Chelonia mydas)
(g) Hawksbill sea turtle (Eretmochelys imbricata)
(h) Kemp's ridley seaturtle (Lepidochelys kempii)
(i) Leatherback sea turtle (Dermochelys coriacea)
(j) Striped mud turtle (Kinosternon bauri) (lower keys population only)
(k) Wood stork (Mycteria americana)
(l) Snail kite (Rostrhamus sociabilis plumbeus)
(m) Peregrine falcon (Falco peregrinus)
(n) Ivory-billed woodpecker (Campephilus principalis)
(o) Bachman's warbler (Vermivora bachmanii)
(p) Kirtland's warbler (Dendroica kirtlandii)
(q) Florida grasshopper sparrow (Ammodramus savannarum floridanus)
(r) Cape Sable seaside sparrow (Ammodramus maritimus mirabilis)
(s) Gray bat (Myotis grisescens)
(t) Indiana bat (Myotis sodalis)
(u) Florida mastiff bat (Eumops glaucinus floridanus)
(v) Silver rice rat (Oryzomys argentatus)
(w) Choctawhatchee beach mouse (Peromyscus polionotus allophrys)
(x) Perdido Key beach mouse (Peromyscus polionotus trissyllepsis)
(y) St. Andrews beach mouse (Peromyscus polionotus peninsularis)
(z) Anastasia Island beach mouse (Peromyscus polionotus phasma)
(aa) Key Largo cotton mouse (Peromyscus gossypinus allapaticola)
(bb) Key Largo woodrat (Neotoma floridana smalli)
(cc) Florida saltmarsh vole (Microtus pennsylvanicus dukecampbelli)
(dd) Lower Keys marsh rabbit (Sylvilagus palustris hefneri)
(ee) Florida manatee (Trichechus manatus latirostris)
(ff) Florida panther (Puma concolor coryi)
(gg) Key deer (Odocoileus virginianus clavium).

No person shall feed Key deer (Odocoileus virginianus clavium) by hand or by placing any food that serves to attract such species.

(hh) North Atlantic right whale (Eubalaena glacialis)
(ii) Fin whale (Balaenoptera physalus)
(jj) Sei whale (Balaenoptera borealis)
(kk) Humpback whale (Megaptera novaeangliae)
(ll) Sperm whale (Physeter macrocephalus)
(mm) Schaus'swallowtail butterfly (Heraclides aristodemus ponceanus)
(nn) Stock Island tree snail (Orthalicus reses)

The Miami blue butterfly (Cyclargus [=Hemiargus] thomasi bethunebakeri), listed after June 23, 1999, is declared to be endangered.



I also called and made sure :mrgreen:
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Re: Red Panda as pet?

Postby Trefoil » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:34 pm

If you can get them the problem may be their food. You said you've researched just what they need to eat. I would suggest that you start raising their food asap. This would give you an idea whether or not you are going to be able to provide them with enough year round. And also give you a head start.

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