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Re: Your ideal ball python set up?

Postby Ash » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:37 pm

No problem. ;)

They will sometimes brighten up with age. So after each shed, do a mental comparison. Is he brighter this time than before? Take pictures and see if he's getting brighter as he grows.

Pairing him with a nice, high-quality pastel would brighten up the babies if you got banana pastels in the clutch. Or if you bred him to a bumblebee (bumblebee is a pastel spider though) you could get a variety of cool offspring from the pairing. Or paired with a lemon blast (pastel pinstripe) too would yield some really nice results.

Another pairing you could do is with an enchi, or an enchi combo. Enchis are kind of like... an enhancer gene. So it brings out the extremes better.

The spider gene is cool, and it does carry its risks. Typically if you're breeding small scale, you don't see as many problems (since you're not breeding tons of snakes). But if you're a large-scale breeder, or a part of a big ball python community, then it seems like there are so many that have the bad wobbling issues.

I'm a bit wary of the spider gene too, but as long as you're prepared for it (including dealing with its dramatic effects), there's nothing wrong with it. All spiders will have wobbles (it's linked to the gene) but some are hardly noticeable, whereas others do weird things. It is endearing, but they are difficult to feed and some breeders have had to put down their hatchlings because they would never eat on their own--which would be so hard to do. There are lots of posts where people upload pictures of their spiders doing weird,trippy things, lol--followed by the caption: "Go home spider, you're drunk." They're fun pictures, and it shows the cute and "special" side of them. But if you're not comfortable working with the gene, that's completely understandable too. There are a lot of people who shy away from it for those reasons.

I want to make spieds--which is a pied spider. So I personally won't be shying away from the gene. It's a beautiful morph. You just need to know what you're in for and be prepared in case you get a really bad case of wobble that can't be worked around easy.

Inbreeding is not an issue for snakes. They do not have the same problems mammals can have. It is common for clutch mates to be sold as pairs, or for an offspring be bred back to its parent. I have never heard of any genetic problems regarding inbreeding with snakes. So it is not something to worry about at all. ;)

Some ill-informed people will tell you that the spider gene's wobble is a result of inbreeding, but that is nonsense. So don't listen to them. The spider gene is associated with the wobble and has been from the beginning. It wouldn't have mattered whether or not it was inbred in the first place. You can breed a spider that has almost absolutely no noticeable wobble, and it could have a baby that takes the wobble to the extreme. It can't be "bred" out, just like it couldn't be "inbred" in.
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