caninesrock wrote:Even then, I personally still think it's kind of messing with nature.
Then what do you think of stem cell research? What about producing clones to use as a control in testing situations?
caninesrock wrote:Not all breeds have a purpose. There's tons of toy breeds of dog that don't really have a purpose other than for people to tote them around as fashion accessories. Also,some purebreds there are already tons of,like labradors and golden retrievers, plently enough that they'd probably still be around for a long time even if everyone stopped breeding them.
caninesrock wrote:Also, there's labradoodles. They may have started out as silly designers dogs,but now they have a purpose. They are used in therapy and as service dogs for people that otherwise wouldn't be able to have serive or therapy dogs because their poodle side makes them hypoallergic while the lab side makes them more trainable, so now handi-cap people who are mildly allergic to dogs can still have service dogs.
So Poodles and Labradors should cease to exist because there's "too many of them" or they "have no purpose", but a mix of the two is perfectly fine? I don't understand your logic, there. Also, no dog is "hypoallergenic"
. People are allergic to dogs for more reasons than just their hair. They're also a complete horror to groom. People think "hypoallergenic" and "non-shedding" means "never have to brush or groom".
I don't get how they have more "purpose" than either of the two breeds they are a mix of. Both those breeds can do both of those jobs, and I have seen them do it. In my experience, Doodles are high-energy, stubborn and not at all aesthetically pleasing (read: I think they're ugly).
How come Doodles are "hypoallergenic" and can be trained as service dogs, but regular Poodles can't? Because they're just made to be a fashion accessory, right? They're one of the smartest breeds in existence
. They are certainly more trainable than Labs, I'll tell you that.
You do know that people bred dogs initially just to have a friend, right? They picked certain traits and looks that they liked, and that became selective breeding, then evolved into different breeds. And those traits and standards are still upheld today, mostly because they worked well. Not all dogs need to be rescue or service dogs to have merit. People want pure breed dogs because they have traits that can be relied on to be there
in that breed.
So no, I still don't think random, inexperienced people should just breed their family pet, with no medical or family history, just because they think their dog is so absolutely amazing
that there needs to be more of them. If you really want to get into breeding as a hobby or business, you need to invest a lot of time, knowledge and more than likely a ton of money into it. And like Sarajeku said, you need to be responsible for every single dog you produce for its entire life.
Breeding a dog to get more dogs like that, then giving them all away, is not responsible. Why would you want to make more of them if you're just going to give them away to people whom you might have no idea of how they are going to treat that animal or what's going to happen in its life.
I loved my dog. But I'm not selfish and the memory of him alone keeps me happy. I don't need seven to ten puppies that may only look and act slightly like him to satisfy my desire to see him again. Those unrecognized breeds you mentioned were only obtained after generations of breeding. So wanting to have a breed that breeds true, that looks like your one favorite dog, is going to take running through possibly hundreds of other dogs. That's what bothers me most. There's selective breeding and then there's being an idiot.
And before I forget, purebred dogs do not end up in shelters nearly
as much as mutts. Why? Because if they're really pure bred dogs, their owner probably paid a good amount for them, and even if it wasn't a good match, a good breeder will take the dog back. Pure dogs in shelters are often runaways or puppy mill dogs that were cheaper than a real breeder, bought for the wrong reasons, then grew up and weren't "fun" anymore, or developed problems due to lack of proper breeding.
Reliable breeders care about the breed, their dogs, and all the offspring they produce. That's why GOOD breeders will require a neutering or spaying before selling a "companion" pet. So stupid crap like the_unstable mentioned can't
happen, and more unwanted dogs fill up shelters. It's a vicious cycle, and could be impacted tremendously by not breeding dogs without cause.