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What's it like being a breeder?

Postby Kasper » Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:17 am

A random thought popped into my head when I was searching for fox breeders in the UK.
What is it like to be a breeder?
How much does it cost annually and is it almost like a full time job?
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Re: What's it like being a breeder?

Postby naja-naja » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:07 pm

Speaking purely as a hobbyist breeder of reptiles, it's very stressful, flaky non-customers are the bane of your life. I'm sure that holds true for breeders of all species.
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Re: What's it like being a breeder?

Postby Kasper » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:08 am

Noted and thanks for your reply!
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- Fennec Fox, Arctic Fox, Red Fox
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Re: What's it like being a breeder?

Postby Lara » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:54 pm

naja-naja wrote:Speaking purely as a hobbyist breeder of reptiles, it's very stressful, flaky non-customers are the bane of your life. I'm sure that holds true for breeders of all species.


I second this! I hobby bred holland lops for a couple years, and as fun as it was, it was also far more stressful than you would think. I met a lot of people who should never own a pet. I had to talk people out of buying our bunnies a couple times :lol:

The one email we got most often was something along the lines of "I like the brown one, how much is it?". This was especially confusing when we did not even have a brown rabbit at the time, let alone one we would consider selling. :roll:
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Re: What's it like being a breeder?

Postby Katalyst » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:08 pm

I have spent the better part of a year planning a particular pairing of my foxes. I put an enormous amount of effort into putting together a waiting list of really capable and awesome homes for potential babies. I spent time getting to know those people, talking them through enclosure design and building, diet, enrichment, socialising etc etc.
I bought all the stuff required to put up another large enclosure for which ever baby I chose to hold back.
I logged changes in behaviour and kept a close eye on the vixen to see if she was coming into oestrus.

And I didn't get a litter :(

Breeding can be very rewarding if it's done well but the chances are if you're doing it well, you'll never make money at it.
Aside from the potential ethical failings of trying to breed animals commercially and make a living off of the offspring, there's also the fact that breeding can go horribly wrong.
Over the years I have bred a lot of animals and have seen some really sad things. I've had females die from complications or lost babies from unavoidable issues.

I think breeding should never really be treated as more than a hobby. I've yet to see a commercial supplier of mammals doing things as ethically as a small scale private breeder for example.

Breeding CAN be very rewarding and fun but it can also be VERY soul destroying, exhausting, and frustrating.
And my least favourite aspect of breeding is dealing with people.
I put together a very clear and concise list of what I required of potential buyers before I would consider adding them to the waiting list for the fox litter that never happened. This included written permission from a landlord if the house was rented, photographic proof of the enclosure they planned to house the fox in and that they were over 21 years of age amongst other things.

I still go a ridiculous number of emails from people who refused to send me photos of their enclosure and instead answered with something like "lol, just trust me, it exists!", people who planned on not telling their landlord that they were getting a fox and 15 year old kids who couldn't possibly know where life is going or what they will be doing in two or three years time, let alone be able to guarantee they can provide a safe and permanent home for the potentially 10 to 12 years that their fox should live.

Seriously, keep it as a hobby and don't try to put the pressure on yourself or your animals that will be required if you are trying to breed for a living.
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