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Tanuki Keepers... Lend me your Knows.

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Tanuki Keepers... Lend me your Knows.

Postby Katalyst » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:11 am

Right. I'm going to do it. I've been toying with tanuki for something approaching forever.
I've been offered a really nicely bred and reared baby and the timing is good.

Obviously I shall be building an outdoor enclosure for it but plan to raise it largely how I have my foxes i.e in the house around the dogs until such a time as it really needs to be outdoors. I can do 180 square foot fairly easily but I'm looking to buy some land which will mean something much larger.
Diet wise, my plan is to feed like I do my foxes with much more fruit and veg so lots of various raw meats, whole prey, eggs and berries etc.
I'm fully aware of the potential for smell and aggression later on.


So please, any tips, tricks, warnings, advice etc is gratefully received.
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Postby Ash » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:06 pm

Wow, it sounds like you're ready. I'm not a tanuki keeper, but I wanted to say congratulations on your decision! I will look forward to hearing your posts about your baby. I've really wondered what these guys are like.
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Postby Katalyst » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:45 am

It was one of those "for God's sake woman, how many more years are group going to procrastinate for?!" moments and I decided it was about time I just got on with it lol.

I shall keep you thoroughly posted. I've been rubbish at posting on here as I find that the forum doesn't do pic uploads etc easily from a mobile and I end up throwing a bitch fit after 5 failed attempts and giving up hahaha.
I'll have to get pics of my four foxes, the skunk and enclosures up too.
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Postby Juska » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:37 am

I thought tanuki were illegal to export/import (I don't remember which)? Or do you live somewhere/have a license where that isn't applicable? Maybe I'm thinking of another animal or country.
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Postby Katalyst » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:56 am

I live in the UK where they're perfectly legal. I can't imagine taking on any animal without being fully aware of any laws and regulations/restrictions pertaining to them tbh. They're almost certainly about to go on the Alien Invasive Species act which means anyone that doesn't own one already by the time that comes into force won't be able to legally aquire one.

Anyway, that aside, he's coming from a UK breeder. Our quarentine laws would making importing something that is so readily locally available completely unviable.
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Postby caninesrock » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:21 pm

I'm not a tanuki owner because unfortunately they are illegal in my country, but I'd love to hear about your little guy when you get him because I've always thought they were adorable and interesting little canines.
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Postby Juska » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:59 pm

Ah, I see. Didn't know you were in the UK.
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Postby Katalyst » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:10 pm

Juska wrote:Ah, I see. Didn't know you were in the UK.


That's OK. I was really perplexed as to why you thought I was importing one lol
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Postby Foxglove » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:06 am

I know this is kinda old and I'm not sure if you've already built your enclosure, however I thought I'd stress the importance of making sure you have a very secure pen as despite what people may tell you they are pretty good at climbing and they do dig quite a bit.

I personally wouldn't trust mine with foxes or dogs as even though they are small they can have a very nasty bite and play far too rough.
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Postby Katalyst » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:25 am

Hi Foxglove and thanks for your thoughts.
I'd never personally keep anything in an enclosure without a solid roof to prevent theft or escape or floor to prevent vermin digging in.
I've had my tanuki for a week and he's definitely not the exceptionally tame baby I was tentatively expecting based on what I'd been told.
Thankfully, that's not an issue as I'm no stranger to exotic mammals and am fully aware of just how grumpy and snappy the species can be so he's not come as a surprise.
He's settling in well and I have made some progress this week with him. He still hates being approached or picked up initially but once I've a at in with him for a minute or so or picked him up, he's pretty good.
And yep, I'm sporting an ever increasing number of puncture wounds as you can imagine.

I've had to de-flea him as he was riddled and am currently worming him as A) he's had fleas so likely is worry and B) he is very pot-bellied and has soft, borderline runny poos.
He's not had the best of starts :(
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Postby Ash » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:48 pm

Ah, poor guy. Hope you can get things sorted out with him. Thanks for the update.

He may come around with age and tame up. Hold old is he now?
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Postby Foxglove » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:39 pm

Aww poor baby, I hope he feels better :icon-frown: . I got my guys when they were already adults so don't have any experience with babies although mine also had very runny, smelly poo which corrected itself after a bit from getting the right diet and settling in. They were both also very fearful however after a little bit of work the male is now super friendly although the female is still pretty standoffish unless there is food involved :lol: . I'm sure your guy will come round to you in no time! icon-smile

Sorry if I came across as rude in my last post. I just re read it and really didn't mean too!
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Postby Katalyst » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:08 am

Foxglove wrote:Aww poor baby, I hope he feels better :icon-frown: . I got my guys when they were already adults so don't have any experience with babies although mine also had very runny, smelly poo which corrected itself after a bit from getting the right diet and settling in. They were both also very fearful however after a little bit of work the male is now super friendly although the female is still pretty standoffish unless there is food involved :lol: . I'm sure your guy will come round to you in no time! icon-smile

Sorry if I came across as rude in my last post. I just re read it and really didn't mean too!


No worries, I didn't read it as rude.

He's much healthier. Soft and glossy and not a flea or worm in sight.
He unfortunately is getting more aggressive every day and will almost certainly be a hands off animal once he goes into an outdoor enclosure.
I'm not going to pretend I'm not disappointed but that's the risk we take when working with these sort of animals.
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Postby Ash » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:43 pm

That's too bad. :( Can you elaborate on the methods you tried to tame him? Was he bottle-raised? Just curious to see if those could be factors.
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Postby Katalyst » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:04 pm

Ash wrote:That's too bad. :( Can you elaborate on the methods you tried to tame him? Was he bottle-raised? Just curious to see if those could be factors.


He was parent reared and allegedly socialised but I'm not convinced tbh. He was snappy from day one and it doesn't seem to matter what I do or don't do, he gets worse every day. I can no longer approach him without gloves on which sounds silly but having just had surgery after a cat bite that resulted in a pasteurella infection and a lot of grimness, I'm done taking chances for a while.
I've spent quite literally hours sat in with him largely ignoring him and showering him in high value treats if he approaches without biting. I've persevered with entirely hand fed meals. I've tried lots of chit chat with him.
I've tried more time with him and less time. He's got progressively worse. I've never worked with anything quite like him tbh. It's like he has a screw loose. It's a huge pity but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Even on the rare occasions he's been playful with me and sociable, he'll still nail me hard and without warning and those bites aren't even approaching playful when they happen. It makes interacting with him very frustrating.
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