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Re: training methods :) part 11

Postby snoball » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:30 pm

here's where things start to get serious - yup it's that time of year again :lol:

lambing has started and as of next week me and jake are going to be going to the black mountains of wales to help my good friend euen out for a bit cos he's got lots of ewe's that are having double lambs this time and he's gotta sort them out - proper nightmare if last year is anything to go by lol :icon-wink:

last year it rained solid for 2 weeks and when it stopped the ground was that soft and boggy that the quad bike got stuck so we had to do it the hard way and walk --- good job we can both work our dogs from 1/4 mile away :icon-wink: and this time my new charge Buster is going with me - i reckon that he'll be more than upto the job of going with jake and pushing sheep off the tops and down into the valley fields this year which should in theory help take the workload off jake (which he'll never let happen) --- yeah right :lol:

so i'll update my FB page with piccies if i remember my digicam so that you can all see how it's going / not going --- last year all the dogs had a rough time of it but the weather has been a bit kinder this year and i might not need the tractor to get to the farm gates :mrgreen:

i'm expecting buster to be spot on by the end of this week hence me including him next week --- he's nearly 6months old and has a fair bit of growing up to do but i think that he'll relish the challenge of the black mountains

also means that i'm gunna be running around a fair bit from now till september when the ewe lambs go to auction :roll:

love this time of year when the grass is as lush as it's going to get and the air has been cleaned out by the winter storms - makes for really nice days in the mountains --- nothing better really - a hillside full of sheep and lambs calling out - nice weather and 2 dogs by my side really nothing ever comes close :icon-wink:

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Re: training methods :) part 12

Postby snoball » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:39 am

today is buster last day on the training ground cos we go to the black mountains tomorrow and have some fun :)

so with today being busters last day i'm taking both buster and jake to the local flyball and agility centre as way of showing my appreciation for the hard work that we've all done in getting this far icon-smile i love going to agility track just to watch jake fly round he does it on his own with me giving whistles --- it's very rare that i actually run alongside them --- put simply i'm good but i can't keep up with either of them lol :lol:

after we've been to the tracks for a couple of hours i'll take them for a swim in the river mersey --- i live up stream of the tidal weir in warrington so all the sweat and dirt from the agility and flyball tracks gets washed out of their fur ready for going tomorrow morning :mrgreen:

today the suns shining and from what i've been hearing the weather should hold for next week too :mrgreen: life doesn't get any better :mrgreen:

the ultimate holiday - blue skies, lush grass in the fields, fabulous mountain views and both dogs by my side life really, really doesn't get any better than this :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: training methods :) part 13

Postby snoball » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:14 am

can't believe some people at all icon-sad

took jake and buster to the agility and flyball track in Upper Walton in Warrington --- superb facility with everthing that any dog could wish for :mrgreen:

it says on the boards instructions before you're allowed in that all dogs must be under control and some woman turns up with a completely out of control patterdale terrier - in short nearly every collie there (about 95% of the dogs there) had a go at killing it and she was asked to get it on a leash and she couldn't do it :lol: the upshot being that those of us with well behaved and well mannered collies that stay off leash all the time we're there ended up attacking it big time --- it was a case of "if you can't control your dog then we will" she ended up getting kicked out :mrgreen: cos of the facilities rules about behaviour and none of with collies got a ticking off icon-smile it cost £25 a session for both of my dogs to have a run round in their facility (big enclosed warehouse type barn thing) i'm just surprised by the number of people who just turn up and think that cos they've paid they don't have to follow the rules - rule number 1 on their board is that all dogs must be under control at all times !!!!! and this is written in 3inch letters at the top of the board.

quite a lot of working collies go there and a working collie doesn't take no for an answer - they're bred to work alone with 1 other person around and more often than not like jake and buster they don't get socialised with other dogs cos they're working dogs and the only person they work for is their handler --- other dogs just shouldn't be there. i see it quite a lot where collies furl their lips and bare their teeth at each other --- it's nothing more than a warning and we recognise it and just laugh it off and then someone turns up with an out of control dog that thinks all dogs are to play with and they find out the hard way what a collie can really do :lol:

all these people that got staffordshire bull terriers and stuff cos they look macho should have bought a collie with an attitude problem --- looks like butter wouldn't melt but wouldn't think twice before ripping anything apart --- jake's rule if it moves kill it icon-smile and that i can quite happily live with and buster's going the same way -- friendly enough towards people but hating everything else icon-smile

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Re: training methods :)

Postby RabbleFox » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:13 pm

Eheheh. Collies tend to be "sharper" than staffies. I've found that working bred dogs are even sharper in comparison to the rest of the breed.

Merlin is quite sharp as far as Ratties go. He doesn't take crap from any dog but he I under my voice control at all times.

Gosh I love collies. I vow to someday own one. They've got the whole package. I really would invest in one now if I had my own home and such. Alas, apartment living calls for a smaller pooch (though most collies aren't huge). A corgi it is!

Honestly, baby b/w Cardis remind me of baby BCs an awful lot:

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Re: training methods :) part 14

Postby snoball » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:04 am

love your attitude to this :lol:

i love it when someone with a staff thinks that their dog will do damage to any of my collies only to find that my collie isn't just a whole heap smarter and has sussed the situation out before it's even occured but also has the ability to run the staff ragged and then kill it :lol: sounds as though the collie breed really has got it's head screwed on --- it's a complete package :lol:

much as i love corgi's i wouldn't have one simple reason is i hate bending down to put a leash on at least my collies when sat have their heads on a level with my hands :lol:

in terms of buying one the only ones that i look at are ISDS registered ones - that tag guarantees that the pups come from a decent bloodline that was born to work :icon-wink:

hope you can make your dreams a reality :lol: they really are fantastic to watch :lol:

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Re: training methods :) part 15

Postby snoball » Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:53 am

well we've just got off the train and busters lost his lunch and possibly last nights dinner too lol :mrgreen:

he was fine on the train - nice and quiet and even went to sleep which everyone in the carriage thought was well sweet aaarrrrgggghhhh :icon-wink: so now we've just got to wait for the landrover to turn up and then off we go - we'll prolly start working tonight seeing as it's still dry (total bonus for this part of wales)

the going at the moment is prolly soft to good and firm in patches :icon-wink:

just hoping that buster doesn't get carried away like jake used to --- jake saw a sheep and well yup he gripped - not good but he's a lot better now so am hoping that buster can learn a few tricks from him cos he idolises jake and is mega keen to work too :mrgreen:

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Re: training methods :) part 16

Postby snoball » Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:09 pm

just had an outstanding week so far :)

4000 sheep accross 4 farms that needed dipping and 24 dogs trying to control a major stampede lol :)

most of the dogs got out unscathed a few got caught up in race to get out of there unfortunately but nothing serious to either dogs or sheep :)

really good fun but the weather has taken a turn for the worse now which is disappointing as it has been wall to wall sunshine :mrgreen: and everyone was loving it :mrgreen: made a really nice change from dealing with small town farms on tightish plots with little space to breathe :mrgreen:

also glad that the wind stayed in the same direction for most of this week cos i was sending jake and buster up 3000ft hills to fetch the sheep off the tops and down in to the pens for dipping --- less leg work for me although my mouth feels like it's done ten rounds with mike tyson - whistling for the best part of 12 hours a day does that to you - at least my jaw muscles got some serious exercise should be easier on me come next week :mrgreen:

looking forward to taking them to market in the next few weeks when they've all been dipped :mrgreen:

loving it and my dogs are well happy with their new diet of sheep internals and the best bits of muscles :mrgreen: can't want for more at the moment :mrgreen:

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Re: training methods :)

Postby Ash » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:48 pm

Wow, sounds like your dogs love their work! lol I'll have to check out your pictures. I'd love to see some of them doing the herding.
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Re: training methods :) part 17

Postby snoball » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:12 am

Hi ash icon-smile

all ISDS border collies were born to work icon-smile my t-shirt has a pic of jake (i'll try n find a pic somewhere) with born to chase written under it :mrgreen:

both jake and buster are typical of any pure working dog - show them a sheep and they'll show you how it's done lol :icon-wink: it's like a family reunion at this time of year cos everyone just gets stuck in and the 4 farmers that we've been working with just give the orders and then that's it "showtime" not had chance to take any piccies of them in action tbh been having to concentrate on what jake and buster have been doing so that no mishaps occur.

i'll endeavour to take some decent ones this next week and post them up on my FB page :mrgreen:

i love watching working dogs "work" - my friend has springers and i love going to a shoot with him just to watch the dogs flush --- now and again we let jake go chasing - buster is still a pup and it'd be too dangerous to send him in cos he hasn't learnt when to calm down yet lol :mrgreen:

so yup we're on the move a bit further south for next week to help out more of my friends but next week is worse than this week in terms of terrain - the heart of the black mountains is totally isolated but where there's sheep there's often plenty of work lol :lol:

been a good week with a really nice payday too and i got jake and buster some extra meat as a thankyou to them for being really good and taking the whistle all the time --- thanks guys :mrgreen:

donna

ps i lose buster at the end of next week cos he was already sold and the owner wants him back :icon-frown: --- so am left with jake doing all the work glad that i've had buster around but i keep thinking that jake wants to do everything himself as per normal so am hoping that busters owners appreciate his skill set and jusrt carry on with it cos he's another one of my outstanding and reliable workhorses :mrgreen:
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Re: training methods :) part 18

Postby snoball » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:10 am

so we lost buster at the tail end of last week and this weeks just a nightmare for jake --- the 300ft mountain out of the back of Llanfairfechan has been this weeks challenge and apart from needing to be extra fit jake's stuck to his task pretty well.

at one point the sea mist kept rolling in (the sea is about 3miles from the hill) and i kept losing jakeyboy only to see him reappear with more sheep n lambs which proves how smart he actually is :)

dog auction is in a few weeks time but i don't know if i'll be able to get a replacement for buster though bit of shame tbh --- really needed buster this week but alas he's now chasing sheep on the Isle of Man and good luck to the little guy :)

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Re: training methods :)

Postby autumn blitz » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:28 pm

i put my money down on a 4 week old pup this morning and am hoping that she'll be as good if not better than buster is :)

i'll put pics up on my FB page - www.snoball.snoball@facebook.com - later cos i've not had chance to go through them yet :(

i took jake and winters dream (the pup i got last xmas) to haigh hall after we went and saw the new puppy (flurry) and despite the fact that it was absolutely hacking it down they both enjoyed it bigtime :) i ended up chucking both of them in the river douglas to get them clean enough to put on the train to go home :)
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Re: training methods :)

Postby autumn blitz » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:48 am

the piccies are up on my facebook page sorry for the link above being wrong -- my bad :(

it's http://www.facebook.com/snoball.snoball

hope this flies :)

the new puppy is the little black and white one (inset piccy) and jake the red and white (main piccy) is my go to dog for when everything is going pearshped

today i've been trying to get jake to get out of bed :) he had one heck of a day yesterday with me running around and visiting people and buying a new puppy and going to see some other litters that have only just been born :)

already picked out a little starlet from one of the litters but only time will tell if it's what i'm looking for.
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Re: training methods :)

Postby Ash » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:17 am

Cute! :D
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Re: training methods :)

Postby autumn blitz » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:58 am

Thankyou Ash :)

there'll be plenty more piccys of FLURRY -- yup that's what i named her :) when i get her home in 4 weeks time :) roll on november 6th :)

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Re: training methods :)

Postby autumn blitz » Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:27 am

today we're prepping to go to the black mountains to help glyn out :) glyn broke his leg last month trying to get a sheep to "behave" so me, blaenau jake and winters dream are going down there to work his sheep for him :) yippee :) love the black mountains at this time of year -- cold, extremely wet, totally desolate and no tourists cos of those things :)

hoping that winters dream is upto the job - she's one year old just but she's been doing really well with the whistle commands and although she's jakeyboy quick she actually listens to me :) makes a change really :)

went and got some more biscuits from pets at home :) they do their own big bags for £3 so am stocked up now for a while :)

i put some more piccies up on my FB page (www.facebook.com/snoball.snoball) of last nights trail walk with blaenau jake :)
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