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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Lasergrl » Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:43 pm

That is a very good site and accurately describes how these dogs can be difficult and dangerous in untrained hands. They are bred for a purpose and do it well. If you need a dog for guarding against large and dangerous threats then this is your breed. If you live in the suburbs it may not be a good fit. This breed is seldom very playful even as tiny puppies. Playing is only a distraction to doing a job.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Splashstorm » Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:28 pm

Ah, okay thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby veralidaine » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:36 pm

In some REXANO videos, their Caucasian Ovcharkas seem to enjoy playing with the tigers
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Splashstorm » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:02 pm

I think one day (far far in the future) I would like to get one of these dogs.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Lasergrl » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:04 pm

I just wanted to say that I saw a couple of VERY well socialized Caucasians today. They were in our local township parade. They were wagging their tails and going up to children. They also were not much bigger then a Tibetan or other large breed. Turns out the u.s. club is out of Chardon. That's about 10 minutes away.
They were very nice dogs. If someone wants one they may look into the show bred ones other then working lines as they did seem softer in temperament. Or maybe just intently socialized.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby caninesrock » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:00 pm

@Newt: Your dog is very beautiful. I love that pic of him/her in the snow.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby EsqCaucasians » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:44 pm

Hi Laser:-) Those are my dogs in the Chardon and surrounding community parades. From Russian working lines my dogs are trained and carefully socialized. The breed has owned me for 22 years. Nice to see a positive mention on this forum.

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Lasergrl wrote:I just wanted to say that I saw a couple of VERY well socialized Caucasians today. They were in our local township parade. They were wagging their tails and going up to children. They also were not much bigger then a Tibetan or other large breed. Turns out the u.s. club is out of Chardon. That's about 10 minutes away.
They were very nice dogs. If someone wants one they may look into the show bred ones other then working lines as they did seem softer in temperament. Or maybe just intently socialized.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby EsqCaucasians » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:53 am

Puppy kindergarten, Obed 1, Obed 2 series Go off property 2-3 times a week. Invite guests over once a week. That's a ballpark estimation for the amount of socialization needed, some pups will need more. The key seems to be consistency and to not miss chunks of time. I do not tranq for vet visits and expect my dogs to tolerate strangers when I am standing there. Thank you for the topic.

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Lasergrl wrote:They need to be HEAVILY socialised. They need to be owned only by someone with a VERY firm hand. They can and will take a mile when given an inch. They wont hesitate to take someone down that tresspasses. I dont think they are a good fit for someone that doesnt want a serious guard dog, or livestock guardian. Most have to be tranqued for vet visits or knocked completely out. They dont tolerate a stranger doing anything to them.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby EsqCaucasians » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:06 am

Caucasian Ovcharka Viktor Esquire TT (middle), UKC GrCh "Ava" CGC (right) (Esquire Caucasians import) with Jackie Lapinski Michalik, and AKC/UKC dual Ch. "Vashi" with Sue Vasick (left), Huntsburg Ohio Pumpkin Festival parade October 7, 2012 in the rain :-) "TT" is American Temperament Test TT certified (atts.org) and the CGC is the Canine Good Citizenship certificate.

Lasergrl wrote:I just wanted to say that I saw a couple of VERY well socialized Caucasians today. They were in our local township parade. They were wagging their tails and going up to children. They also were not much bigger then a Tibetan or other large breed. Turns out the u.s. club is out of Chardon. That's about 10 minutes away.
They were very nice dogs. If someone wants one they may look into the show bred ones other then working lines as they did seem softer in temperament. Or maybe just intently socialized.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Ash » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:03 pm

Your dogs are beautiful! It's always great hearing from owners of these animals. Thanks for the information.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Lasergrl » Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:42 pm

Yup, thats the parade, its always raining during the pumpkin festival!

I have only met a couple before yours, and they were NOT nice. I have talked to a few that use them for livestock guarding, so the dogs are NOT socialized at all. It was nice to see a couple that were so well rounded and enjoying people.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby EsqCaucasians » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:14 pm

Now about the hip dysplasia differences between Central Asian Shepherds and cousin breed Caucasian Ovcharka, I wrote to PennHIP (University of Pennsylvania Hip Improvement Program) for the latest numbers on the breeds with this response:


Stacey KubynPennHIP
Yesterday at 8:21am near Cleveland ·
What are the current scores for Caucasian Ovcharka and Central Asian Shepherds with the number of reported dogs too?
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PennHIP Hi Stacey. There are 51 Caucasian Ovcharka dogs in the database. The mean DI is 0.64 and the median DI is 0.62. There are 33 Central Asian Shepherds in the database. The mean DI is 0.56 and the median DI is 0.58.


On the PennHIP scale 0.0 - 0.3 is considered tight hips with little chance of degenerative joint disease. Both Central Asians and Caucasians are pretty loose in the sockets on average. Central Asian numbers are slightly tighter but such a small difference between the breeds may not be statistically significant. To date, more Caucasians have been PennHIP evaluated than Central Asian dogs.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby caninesrock » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:07 pm

@Esq:Beautiful dogs. ^^
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Silverstorm » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:47 am

Stacey,

How is Naum producing? I imagine him throwing some nice stable pups temperment wise. LOVE that dog! Has he sired any more litters?
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby EsqCaucasians » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:35 am

Hi Corina! NAUM had 1 litter 2012 and we are watching the pups and like the results. There's a few pics on my FB page. Here is his son "Gus"

Silverstorm wrote:Stacey,

How is Naum producing? I imagine him throwing some nice stable pups temperment wise. LOVE that dog! Has he sired any more litters?
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