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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Elina » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:33 pm

Thanks for the info guys.

We had thought of a Mal but the Ovcharka is just so different from everything and everything we have read about them sounds good, hard work but worth it.

Newt wrote:Also be prepared for nighttime barking, lol.
And to clarify you may never be able to have your CO off leash.
I can't stress enough to research your breeders, there are more bad then good.
Have you ever owned a guardian dog?
What breeds have you owned/ worked with?
Are there reasons behind wanting a LSG?


My Dad is fine with night time barking, he lives in the middle of. . . quite a few acres of land so has no neighbours and is accustomed to my foxes in mating season which are INSANELY loud as well as his macaws which can be loud on occasion, again normally when they are trying to woo one another.

Not being able to walk it off lead is fine, we had a Siberian husky when I was a child and due to his strong will we could not walk him off lead.

We planned to look into breeders very thoroughly, even importing the dog from another country if needs be.

We have an German shepherd x Collie who is very much a guard dog and acts more like a German shepherd then a collie. My Dad also has 4 Irish Wolfhounds.

My Dad has worked with various large breeds in his life having large dogs since he was about 6. He and I are very good at training less trainable animals such as my foxes and my Dad's raccoon (said raccoon will only listen to him as he is very stern).

My Dad would like a Ovcharka as he has a large estate and is planning on getting some more exotic mammals so he would like a dog that he can have around them that will not try to attack them as many dogs with a high prey drive might. As he looks after my foxes for me when I go away he would like a dog that would also get along with them or more put up with them that is larger then my papillon.

He would like a dog that is a challenge as to some extent all of his dogs have been and that is large enough to play with the others.

He is aware that the require heavy socialisation which is fine and as he lives so far away from anyone else he will have no trouble if the socialisation does not work as well as planned. He walks his dogs on his land so never really encounters anyone else but he plans to take the dog to puppy socialization as a pup and basically take it everywhere with him as he does his other dogs.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Newt » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:35 pm

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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Newt » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:38 pm

Importing is not necessary as there are some great breeders of COs in the US.
I will get their websites for you.
I also recommend Ovcharka Lovers Worldwide on FB, great people there with tons of info.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Newt » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:43 pm

http://www.kdklegacycaucasians.com/

Good info, great breeder =)
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Newt » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:01 pm

http://centralasianshepherd.homestead.com/

Different Ovcharka, Central Asian. Worth a look.
Great info, great breeder.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Newt » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:03 am

http://www.rockhillcaucasians.com/

Martha Reyes, new breeder but health tests.

I would still recommend checking out Central Asian Shepherd Dogs. Less chance of HD.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Elina » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:20 pm

Newt wrote:Importing is not necessary as there are some great breeders of COs in the US.
I will get their websites for you.
I also recommend Ovcharka Lovers Worldwide on FB, great people there with tons of info.


Thanks for all the links but importing may still be required as we live in the UK and not the US :icon-wink: .

Your OC is beautiful! Love the photo!
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Newt » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:34 pm

Go to the facebook page Ovcharka Lovers and look up Jason Currie, hes in UK also.
He has a CO and knows about importing/training etc.
He has a gorgeous CO named Rovy =)
I know he will be able to help you find a breeder and answer any questions.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Elina » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:04 pm

Newt wrote:Go to the facebook page Ovcharka Lovers and look up Jason Currie, hes in UK also.
He has a CO and knows about importing/training etc.
He has a gorgeous CO named Rovy =)
I know he will be able to help you find a breeder and answer any questions.


Thanks hun, your a star!

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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby brian pike » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:44 pm

we are a english breeder of caucasians and the first importer of caucasian ovtcharka please look at our website www.caucasian-ovtcharka.co.uk the first of that name many thanks
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby brian pike » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:19 pm

caucasians if in the right hands are great we have horses/sheep /hens and 9 grandchildren who all mix with the dogs brought up right and handeld right the are great the proof is in the pup
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby brian pike » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:31 pm

sorry for being a bit cheeky but i think the person called newt is a jason currie bulling himself up so people will read his website if iam wrong iwill stand corrected
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Silverstorm » Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:43 pm

Does anyone on here have one?

Not yet. I'm waiting until I have my husband and have a kid or kids before I get my Ovcharka puppy. I want to ensure the safety of my family. So for me it'll be best for the puppy to grow up with the family. It might be difficult enough to transition a couple of my working dogs to my future husband and unborn children as it is. I'll take my chances with my 50 lbs dogs though versus a 140 lbs dog. =p


Why would you recommend and not recommend one if you have one or have met one?

I have meet a few Ovcharka and LOVED them, lol! They are great, goofy family dogs and protectors but generally not so great with strangers in the home. The ideal temperament is a dog who is a loving family guardian at home and okay/tolerant with strangers out in public (but not necessarily at home base! Personal terriority and public property are complete different settings for this breed). I hear they are the least dog-aggressive LGD - which is important since I already have a pack of dogs. They make excellent pillows, lol.

I would not recommend an Ovcharka unless you have prior "real" dog experience. You should have a decent size property/yard - they like to be outdoors. They should be given a "job" and a view to stand watch over their territory.

Definitely a lot of exposure to people, other animals, places and positive interactions. The dog does not need "hands on" interaction so much as just being around other humans and environments. So that the dog learns these are non-threats. Which gives the dog a reason not to react. From what I understand conversing with Stacey (breeder) and friends who own and live with them...they need a routine.

If your dad is interested in this breed, I would recommend he has consistent caretakers come visit the property a few times weekly when dog is a puppy continued through adulthood. Something like letting the dog out or bringing the dog in for feedings. Or perhaps even board the dog and do like a half-day's worth of "daycare" at a trusted boarding kennel with a consistent crew. So your dad will have options for dog-sitters and/or boarding in case he needs to take a vacation for a few days or weeks in the future.

The thing that I do not like about them is loose lips. So much drooling - yuck! When I'm ready for my puppy...I'm going to be looking specifics and a breeding that will produce pups with tighter lips. =]


I can direct you to the experts, if you wish? Those who have raised and share their daily lives with this breed.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Elina » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:55 pm

Thanks for the info!
Yes the experts contact info would be fab.
Sadly we have had allot of deaths in our family as of late and so my Dad's dog plans have been put on hold but I think it's good in a way as it means he can read more about the breed.

I don't like drooly dogs either. I met a really nice doberman the other day and was playing with her but the more into the game she got the more she covered me in drool and she did not have nice breath :lol: . If they are big droolers I am making my Dad give his a raw diet as my dogs are on one and their breath does not smell of anything.

Good idea about boarding the dog even when it's not needed, I was thinking the window for socialization may be small. We have people working at our house every day near enough so when my Dad get's an CO he will meet allot of people even before he has had his jabs.
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Re: Caucasian Shepherd/Caucasian Ovcharka

Postby Splashstorm » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:37 pm

I really like these dogs but don't know all that much about them. Are they playful with their families, because in that site (http://www.flockguard.org/cmd/cmdowner.htm) it seemed that they were not. :[
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