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My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

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My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

Postby Asilbobh » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:45 am

Hi please send me any kind of advice? My little girl, Rumi, is experiencing some kind of asthma or allergies. That’s the best way I can explain it. She has these “attacks” when she has some kind of excitement involving food or a scare like she’s been caught doing something “bad”? She eats and often gets the hiccups right after too! She can stop after a series of 6-10 coughs but I’m getting concerned? I guess I’m curious if any of you have experienced this and if so what course of action have you taken? Rumi is a domestic bred raccoon from a very well renowned breeder. She’s never had any issues other than eating something that’s made her sick a few times. She does shake her head a lot like she has something in her ears but she’s clean. No ear mites or any debris. Not sure if it has any bearing? Thank you for all your help!

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Re: My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

Postby DeweysMom » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:54 pm

Does she have all of her vaccinations? Is she indoor-only, or does she spend time outdoors? Have you checked her mouth/throat for any obstructions? Is she eating/drinking/pottying normal? Please explain what she has eaten in the past that made her sick. (ie food, or did she get into something like cleaning products/ chemicals, etc??)

"Attacks" - you have to offer a bit more information, such as is it a breathing problem (such as an asthmatic attack), or could it possibly be seizure activity?? How long do the 'attacks' last? How long has this been going on? More info may be helpful.

IMO, the head shaking and hiccups and 'attacks' don't seem to have any relationship to each other. Sometimes, if raccoons eat too fast - or too much - hiccups will occur.

My advice would be to bring her to your vet for a thorough exam. They will be the best option for figuring out what's wrong with Rumi. Additionally, you could contact the breeder you got her from and run it past them, too. But it truly would be best to have her examined by your vet.

Others here with more extensive veterinary backgrounds may be able to offer more information. Hoping they chime in...
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Re: My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

Postby Ana » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:36 pm

The head shaking thing - I've got six raccoons here, and they ALL do it. This has been investigated thoroughly by my vet on several occasions - the doctor believes it to be a raccoon behavioral trait. It has unsettled me no end, the head shake, but no ear swab has ever divulged any cause. Unless Rumi starts digging at her ears, wincing, bending her ear, or you're seeing discharge, smelling something odious, it's probably what my vet calls "the head shaking thing" :lol:

The coughing. It happens here too. Coons do a lot of snuffling around - they will investigate corners and dusty areas nose first. I think particles get up in their nasal passages, get trapped in the nares, or get through the nares and into the esophageal tube, creating that coughing that gets us all anxious. A crumb, a dust mote, a particle of saw dust, any little thing can trigger it.

The hiccups after eating are due to eating too fast. My Jude eats like a wolf, then hiccups for ten minutes after his meal. ♡
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Re: My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

Postby pat » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:52 pm

Deweys mom and ana posted good info.
however, I would like to know what you feed her?
not saying that is the reason, but, only trying to rule that out.
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Re: My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

Postby Yatzee » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:33 pm

Yatzee does those things too and is about 7 months and from a breeder as well. He doesn't do the hiccups though.
I'm glad to hear the head shake thing is a coonie thing. Like stated above, he too has no discharge redness or stinky ears. He's an indoor puppybearcoon(it's what my hubby and I call him,lol)
He does cough though but, it's mostly when he's been running around. I chalk it up to his roly polyness. It is so difficult to get a raccoon to lose weight!
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Postby pat » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:44 pm

Yatzee wrote:Yatzee does those things too and is about 7 months and from a breeder as well. He doesn't do the hiccups though.
I'm glad to hear the head shake thing is a coonie thing. Like stated above, he too has no discharge redness or stinky ears. He's an indoor puppybearcoon(it's what my hubby and I call him,lol)
He does cough though but, it's mostly when he's been running around. I chalk it up to his roly polyness. It is so difficult to get a raccoon to lose weight!



my oldest raccoon does cough once in awhile, not often. he is overweight. not sure if that has anything to do with it or not. my other two are younger and seem to be OK.
I have been trying to cut back on the food intake. it is hard to keep a raccoon at a normal weight. in the cold months, raccoon will semi-hibernate. at least mine do.
since they are less active, I cut their food back more.

since raccoons are scavengers, sometimes I will put small amount of food and scatter some dishes so they have to move around to eat,
I also will put a little food in small paper lunch bags and scatter them. this way, they have to walk to get to it.

however, mine have their own room and a doggie door to go out in their enclosure. their enclosure has a 3 story tower, where they have to climb to get to the top.
there is also a big shelf in their outside enclosure, where they have to climb to get to it.
they also have bunk beds in their room. a ladder to get to the top bunk. they also have a large carrier on the other side of the room, where they have to climb up to get there.

not sure about the stinky ears.that is sometimes due to an infection or ear mites. there is ear meds to help that. can't remember what it is called, but, I got it from the vet.

I will try and find the pictures and post them. (sorry, I keep forgetting to do that)
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Postby Yatzee » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:56 pm

Yatzee isn't that lucky to have all that. He gets the roam of the house though. I have a big panda stuffed animal I play with him with. He likes to hang off it when I lift it up. I have cat toys on a stick he chases and I make him run around the house chasing it.
I did cut back on his dog food and have been getting him to eat more fruits and veggies.
It's amazing how quick raccoons gain weight.
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Re: My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

Postby Trefoil » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:40 am

You might want to check him for internal parasites.
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Postby pat » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:37 am

Trefoil wrote:You might want to check him for internal parasites.

that is a good idea. to save money, just bring a stole sample to the vets.
I don't believe in giving worm meds all the time though unless needed.
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Re: My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

Postby Yatzee » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:16 am

I have a bottle of strongid and the vet says I should deworming him every month. These last 2 months I haven't given it because of his neuter and antibiotics. I'll give him a dose tomorrow.
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Postby pat » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:22 pm

Yatzee wrote:I have a bottle of strongid and the vet says I should deworming him every month. These last 2 months I haven't given it because of his neuter and antibiotics. I'll give him a dose tomorrow.


some vets will say our animals should be taking preventives every month. sorry, but in my thoughts, it is more money in their pocket. it is a script from the vet.
I could be wrong, but, I never saw strngid anywhere without a script.

my vet charges a lot of money for scripts. I finally told them to phone that script into sams club or drug store. (but, some scripts can't be bought other than the vet that I know of.
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Re: My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

Postby DeweysMom » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:16 pm

I'm very anti-treating if you don't have PROOF of a need. Like Pat said, a stool sample to your vet is the saner option.

For years, horse owners were advised to deworm their horses quarterly. Guess what? The worms developed to where the dewormer no longer worked, so now more powerful, harsher dewormers are needed. Same with flea/tick preventative - people over used them on their pets and now fleas and ticks have built up tolerance to the poisons. And look how antibiotics are getting less and less effective against infections, and infections are growing hardier (ie MRSA). Overuse of antibiotics caused this. No one to blame but the medical community on that one.

If your raccoon(s) are house-only dwellers (never set foot outside), there is absolutely no need to deworm them on a regular basis, as they have next to no chance of picking up parasites. However, if they have fur-siblings who go outside the house, it's possible (but not likely) for them to pick up worms from them.

Also, a flea infestation can cause a certain type of worms. There are different KINDS of worms, and each kind needs a specific type of dewormer. One dewormer does NOT kill ALL types of worms. Here's where that stool sample comes into play. You gotta know what kind of worm you have in order to treat it appropriately.
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Re: My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

Postby TamanduaGirl » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:51 pm

You can get strongid OTC. You can most of the common wormers. But they are best for treatment and I normally get it from the vet after a diagnosis but have a couple of times treated dogs on my own who ate neighborhood cat poop and got an obvious case of worms but I chose to use panacur instead. It's more old school to use the treatments regularly, there are better ways now.

For prevention I like revolution. It prevents fleas, heartworm, ticks, mites, and most internal parasites. There are some others that work as prevention as well but I like revolution because it's one very gentle med instead of a combo that takes care of most everything. You can still do periodic fecal testing to see if it misses something.

I've never had much luck with DE(diatomaceous earth) for fleas but mixed into the food it does work well at prevention of digestive parasites. I do that for the anteaters. The dog and fox get revolution(though did use revolution temporarily on Aurora when she had fur issues in case it was mites, vet didn't find any with a scraping but just to be sure we did a few rounds of revolution as treatment for mites).

PS: the vets usually say revolution isn't that great for worms in dogs but is in cats BUT there are plenty of studies I looked up saying it does kill most of them in dogs too, as well as most of both species of ticks though the packaging says just the one species. I think it's some FDA technicality.
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Postby Yatzee » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:14 pm

You guys made great points. Yatzee is most definatly an indoor dude. I still have him on revolution though but, only when I see fleas.
I have 5 cats that I give Confortus to when I see fleas. Usually Spring and Summer.
I hate giving meds if they don't need them. Shoot, I don't like taking medicine myself!
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Re: My 7mth old Coon is coughing/gagging occasionally but getting more frequent, help?

Postby Trefoil » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:34 pm

Chloe does the gagging/coughing sometimes, Scooter never has that I've seen. It worries me,especially as Chloe is getting older and I know that coughing could be a sign of heart disease, but she's always done it, so I don't know. Haven't been able to find anything wrong with her,so far.

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