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red fox colors maths

Postby naja-naja » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:36 am

just did the maths on red fox colors. and wow.
only going on the color mutations i'm aware of, that's marble, platinum, white face, fire, (and the super forms, not counting the lethal supers) and pearl and burgundy, I've calculated 76 different combinations. when you times this by the 3 'wild type' or base colors of red, silver and cross (i didn't count all the types of silver as seperate nor did i count gold or gold cross as seperate from red even though there may be slight differences) you end up with 228 different color forms!

for anyone interested here's the list.

incomplete dominant mutations
1 platinum
2 white face
3 marble
4 fire

super forms
5 platinum marble
6 white face marble
7 marble white (super marble)
8 super fire

recessive mutations
9 pearl
10 burgundy

double het inc-dom combinations
11 platinum fire
12 white face fire
13 marble fire

het + super inc dom
14 platinum super fire
15 white face super fire
16 marble super fire
17 fire platinum marble
18 fire white face marble
19 fire marble white

double super inc dom mutations
20 super fire platinum marble
21 super fire white face marble
22 super fire marble white

double recessive
23 amber (pearl burgundy)

het inc-dom + recessive combinations
24 platinum pearl
25 platinum burgundy
26 white face pearl
27 white face burgundy
28 marble pearl
29 marble burgundy
30 fire pearl
31 fire burgundy

super inc dom + recessive
32 platinum marble pearl
33 platinum marble burgundy
34 white face marble pearl
35 white face marble burgundy
36 marble white pearl
37 marble white burgundy
38 super fire pearl
39 super fire burgundy

double het inc-dom + recessive
40 platinum fire pearl
41 platinum fire burgundy
42 white face fire pearl
43 white face fire burgundy
44 marble fire pearl
45 marble fire burgundy

super + het inc dom + recessive
46 platinum marble fire pearl
47 platinum marble fire burgundy
48 white face marble fire pearl
49 white face marble fire burgundy
50 marble white fire pearl
51 marble white fire burgundy
52 super fire platinum pearl
53 super fire platinum burgundy
54 super fire white face pearl
55 super fire white face burgundy
56 super fire marble pearl
57 super fire marble burgundy

double super + recessive
58 super fire marble white pearl
59 super fire marble white burgundy

inc-dom + double recessive
60 platinum amber
61 white face amber
62 marble amber
63 fire amber

super + double recessive
64 platinum marble amber
65 white face marble amber
66 marble white amber
67 super fire amber

super + inc dom + double recessive
68 platinum marble fire amber
69 white face marble fire amber
70 marble white fire amber
71 super fire platinum amber
72 super fire white face amber
73 super fire marble amber

double super double recessice
74 platinum marble super fire amber
75 white face marble superfire amber
76 marble white superfire amber



Are there any other color forms available apart from these? The next stage of the project will be to collect additional genes, work them into the table, then get pictures and trade names of the combinations.
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Re: red fox colors maths

Postby GitaBooks » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:24 am

Wow, awesome job with the list. I've been writing down all the red fox colors and their genetics, so this will certainly help. All the variety is AMAZING. : )
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Re: red fox colors maths

Postby Ash » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:36 pm

Yeah, so many different possibilities. There's champagne too, but I don't really understand it all that well.
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Re: red fox colors maths

Postby Oatley » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:12 am

I always found genetics very interesting I'm a big nerd ok! So it nice to see someone put work into the numbers of mutations, to see possibilities of color variations.
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Re: red fox colors maths

Postby Peacefulward » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:01 pm

I'm interested in genetics but have a minimal understanding of them.

I don't understand the list at all but it stil sounds very cool. :lol:
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Re: red fox colors maths

Postby Lara » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:03 pm

I love color genetics, but I haven't learned foxes' yet. I am planning to try, does anyone know of good information sources?
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Re: red fox colors maths

Postby GitaBooks » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:11 pm

Some old "fur farmer's" books have some great information on fox and mink genetics. They are kind of hard to find since they are a little older, but more detailed than most modern information. Even have health problems that are linked to certain strains and information such as that.
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Re: red fox colors maths

Postby Vata Raven » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:50 am

GitaBooks wrote:They are kind of hard to find since they are a little older

No, you just need to go right to the publisher for a copy.

http://www.ifasanet.org/scientifur_inte ... r_40_2.pdf

That PDF tells you who to contact about their books.

I ordered my pair in December 2016. I imagine they'll still have them in-stock. I have a feeling they kept it in-print, but just limited the places you can order them (they make more money that way by cutting the middle-man out)

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