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Re: Vaccination Sheet?

Postby Ash » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:25 pm

Grey foxes should NOT be vaccinated against distemper if I remember correctly. I think they have a greater chance of contracting it. But arctics and reds are fine. ;)
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Re: Vaccination Sheet?

Postby TamanduaGirl » Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:05 am

It depends on the type of ferret vaccines. I know at least some time back the ferret distemper was known to make fennecs sick but the newer "Purevax" one would be fine. The main thing is to find a killed one or a recomdinate(Purevax). It's not the species that matters but how the vaccine is made(at least in if it makes them sick).
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Re: Vaccination Sheet?

Postby TamanduaGirl » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:38 pm

Well this is old but popped up in my looking at current info on fennec vaccines.

This has some suggested protocols though they lump foxes with wolves and coyotes as getting the same and also looks old as killed parvo is suggested but hasn't existed for ages now. Foxes really just need the basic 3 as mentioned.

http://avianandexotic.com/care-sheets/m ... are-sheet/
Rabies vaccination (IMRAB/Merial)
Canine distemper virus and canine parvovirus vaccination (Recombitek/Merial)


Bit of info here but again old https://books.google.com/books?id=llBcB ... ol&f=false

I'm thinking RECOMBITEK® rDistemper for fennec since is recombination.
I think Merial rabies but Imrab 3 should be fine as is commonly used.
Either RECOMBITEK or Galxay for parvo.
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Re: Vaccination Sheet?

Postby pat » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:16 am

don't know if this is any help:
http://www.wildcare.com/vacc/species.php

(I posted that in the health forum)
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Re: Vaccination Sheet?

Postby TamanduaGirl » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:22 pm

A fennec might be similar to a kit or gray on there as both grays and fennecs are sensitive to distemper and the shots for them. So it's nice to see they updated that the recombinant distemper has been used safely in grays. It doesn't list parvo at all.

Found this "We report here a parvovirus sequence indicative of a true intermediate between the feline panleukopenia virus-like viruses and the canine parvovirus-like viruses."
Maybe you could give a fennec the cat vaccine for FPV instead for the dog for parvo or maybe since it's different from both just not vaccinate them like your link seems to suggest but it seems like they maybe could get any of the three (fox pv, canine pv, or cat pv(FPV). http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... 825797.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Oh according to that gray and kit get Adenovirus a lot but reds don't get it. This says fennecs can get it. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25632689" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Problem is I think that is also only available in a live vaccine so vaccination would be ill advised. But it's obviously not common in captive fennecs. Most pet fennecs are kept pretty isolated unless they get walks. But the recombinant rabies actually uses a modified adeno virus so that actually should be avoided as it would be like giving an mlv adeno so a chance of getting it from the shot so stick with Iramb 3

This proves the Recombinant vaccine for distemper works in fennecs https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17323579
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Re: Vaccination Sheet?

Postby TamanduaGirl » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:49 pm

More fennec info Combo shot with MLV toxo gives fennec toxo http://www.jaaha.org/doi/abs/10.5326/0400501
I saw some people say they gave there fennecs the combo and they were fine but this shows it's chancy.

I can't find any info showing any fennec has ever had parvo so now I'm on the fence on that one. It's been the standard to give it for years though and if it's something they don't get the shot shouldn't hurt them anyway except for maybe the possible dip in immunity for awhile after the shot and other fox species do get it so probably best to stick with the standard.
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Re: Vaccination Sheet?

Postby TamanduaGirl » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:05 pm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3603882/

This is actually really interesting info. Not only did their tests show foxes get FPV (Feline panleukopenia )but it mentions another study where they injected foxes with various types of parvo and they never caught any of them but showed the strongest response to FPV.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6309349

However there is also a fox parvo virus which the first mentions is very closely related to FPV(feline parvo). To me this suggests getting an FPV shot for a fox may be better than the CPV vaccine. I think this is what I will do for my fennec for sure after finding this info(was on the fence before) since the FPV reccombinant is cannarypox based so safe to give. Though this info does make it seem they aren't that likely to get it even without vaccination but we do have fox and raccoon around so I would feel better vaccinating for it at least while young.

Fel-O-Vax PCT + Calicivax™ is a killed FPV and since fox presumably aren't susceptible to the other two in it, it could be a safe alternative. Another study I found gave dogs killed FPV vaccine and it did protect them from CPV, so this could work.

But there may be no need to vaccinate for Parvo anyway from these studies findings.
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Re: Vaccination Sheet?

Postby Ash » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:14 pm

Wow. That's VERY interesting... I will share this with my vet just for reference. :)
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Re: Vaccination Sheet?

Postby TamanduaGirl » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:45 pm

It was exciting to find these. I also sent them to my vet.

Saying they "get FPV" may not have been the right word but not sure what would be. They found the DNA meaning they shed the virus and found immune response but they may fight it off and get no lasting illness from it. Like the second study that found no symptoms when injected but did find an immune response so their body fought it off, the others including CPV not even getting a response so apparently unable to survive and replicate in the fox as a host for some reason.

And more anecdotally I have never heard of a case of a fox sick with parvo.

Since parvo is so nasty, and it likes to mutate a lot, I'd rather be safe and give a vaccine but since they show the most susceptibility to FPV that vaccine makes the most sense. Plus I don't have to give a MLV like I would with CPV, though if they are immune to CPV the fact it's MLV wouldn't matter I guess.

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